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1 posted on 12/14/2009 3:19:01 AM PST by Cindy
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SNIPPET from post no. 1:


"The US military has not confirmed Qari Dawat was killed in the Nov. 26 strike."

2 posted on 12/14/2009 3:19:54 AM PST by Cindy
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stepping back in time...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1692915/posts

“Journalists’ Forced Conversion Not Contrary to Islam”
Human Events ^ | August 30, 2006 | Robert Spencer
Posted on August 30, 2006 8:45:43 PM PDT by Stoat

“Journalists’ Forced Conversion Not Contrary to Islam”
by Robert Spencer
Posted Aug 30, 2006

SNIPPET: “The most bizarre element of the two weeks of captivity suffered by Fox News reporter Steve Centanni and photographer Olaf Wiig was the video that surfaced depicting their conversion to Islam. Even before the journalists revealed that their conversions had been coerced, there were indications that they were not acting freely. While reading a statement he himself had ostensibly written, Centanni stumbled over words, appeared to puzzle over the handwriting, and seemed to grimace after pronouncing the words “peace be upon him” after the name of the Islamic prophet Muhammad.

Most jarring was the video editor’s invocation of the favorite Koran verse of Western analysts of Islam and terrorism, “There is no compulsion in religion” (2:256). The irony of featuring this verse in a video depicting two forced conversions has been widely noted. In fact, however, the juxtaposition of this verse with the video of Centanni and Wiig was probably not simply transparent deception, as strange as that may seem.

Islamic law forbids forced conversion, but as Andrew Bostom documented earlier this week, this is a law that throughout Islamic history has all too often been honored in the breach. Nor is this yet another case of a “twisting” or “hijacking” of Islam; in fact, Islamic law regarding the presentation of Islam to non-Muslims manifests a different understanding of what constitutes freedom from coercion and freedom of conscience from that which prevails among non-Muslims.

Muhammad instructed his followers to call people to Islam before waging war against them—the warfare would follow from their refusal to accept Islam or to enter the Islamic social order as inferiors, required to pay a special tax (Sahih Muslim 4294). There is therefore a threat in this “invitation” to accept Islam. Would one who converted to Islam under the threat of war be considered to have converted under duress? No; from the standpoint of traditional schools of Islamic jurisprudence, such a conversion would have resulted from “no compulsion.”

Muhammad reinforced these instructions many times during his prophetic career. Late in his career, he wrote to Heraclius, the Eastern Roman Emperor in Constantinople: “Embrace Islam and you will be safe” (Bukhari, 4.52.191). Heraclius did not accept Islam, and soon the Byzantines would know well that the warriors of jihad indeed granted no safety to those who rejected their “invitation.”

After being freed, Centanni said: “We were forced to convert to Islam at gunpoint. Don’t get me wrong here. I have the highest respect for Islam, and I learned a lot of good things about it, but it was something we felt we had to do because they had the guns, and we didn’t know what … was going on.””


3 posted on 12/14/2009 3:27:30 AM PST by Cindy
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Careful, those responsible for the attack could find themselves being court martialed.


4 posted on 12/14/2009 5:22:06 AM PST by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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