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Birth Certificate Submitted by Obama's Grandmother
Western Journalism ^ | 12/12/2009 | borderraven

Posted on 12/12/2009 12:28:23 AM PST by BorderRaven

"BC2. In 1961, if a person was born in Hawaii but not attended by a physician or midwife, then all that was required was that one of the parents send in a birth certificate to be filed. The birth certificate could be filed by mail. There appears to have been no requirement for the parent to actually physically appear before “the local registrar of the district.” It would have been very easy for a relative to forge an absent parent’s signature to a form and mail it in. In addition, if a claim was made that “neither parent of the newborn child whose birth is unattended as above provided is able to prepare a birth certificate, the local registrar shall secure the necessary information from any person having knowledge of the birth and prepare and file the certificate.” (Section 57-8&9) I asked the Dept of Health what they currently ask for (in 2008) to back up a parent’s claim that a child was born in Hawaii. I was told that all they required was a proof of residence in Hawaii (e.g. a driver’s license [We know from interviews with her friends on Mercer Island in Washington State that Ann Dunham had acquired a driver’s license by the summer of 1961 at the age of 17] or telephone bill) and pre-natal (statement or report that a woman was pregnant) and post-natal (statement or report that a new-born baby has been examined) certification by a physician. On further enquiry, the employee that I spoke to informed me that the pre-natal and post-natal certifications had probably not been in force in the ‘60s. Even if they had been, there is and was no requirement for a physician or midwife to witness, state or report that the baby was born in Hawaii."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: article2section1; birth; birthcertificate; birther; birthers; certificate; certifigate; colb; grandmother; hawaii; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamafamily; obamas
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To: sheik yerbouty; null and void
Damian simply doesn’t have one..

Beelzobama is falsehood personified. His father is therefore the father of Lies. Obama is the seed of Satan. He was let out of the abyss. The Obama name is just a front. Information if it exists at all, is most likely filed under the name Abaddon or Apollyon. Ever wonder why locusts "have no king", yet this Destroyer is said to be their leader? What kind of a king has no real job? A community organizer kind of king. It's a community of locusts (destroyers). Acorn, NOI, ROP, Congress...

21 posted on 12/12/2009 4:09:40 AM PST by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: bjorn14
There is also the question of what Passport Obama used when he went to Pakistan. It is unlikely he used a US Passport. At the time he would have to been given “special permission” by the State Dept. to travel there. He may have used an Indonesian Passport but could have also used a British or Kenyan Passport.

The plot thickens!

22 posted on 12/12/2009 4:14:38 AM PST by WellyP
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To: bjorn14
I could not agree more...even by BHO’s own admission he had dual citizenship for part of his life.

The whole point is BHO’s mother was too young to pass citizenship to him by herself even if he was born on the White House lawn with the whole Bethesda Naval Hospital staff as witnesses!

So where do we go from here? Who is going to lead the effort to get this guy and his group the heck out of the White House?

Sitting out here pissing into the wind only gets our pant legs wet.


23 posted on 12/12/2009 4:23:06 AM PST by jws3sticks (Sarah Palin forever!)
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To: techno

Remember that the State Department passport office was burgled or hacked during the 2008 election campaign.

Remember that the DC cop investigating the matter was murdered during the 2008 campaign. Case unsolved.


24 posted on 12/12/2009 4:32:39 AM PST by silverleaf (More folks being invited to the White House for Holiday parties than are being sent to Afghanistan)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Who is “Martin Erickson” (sig near bottom) -—marked NOT a doctor or midwife but “OTHER” ...

Has anyone bothered to look for this person? Still alive?

Witness it seems .........

His children are alive? Lived in Hawaii in 1961???


25 posted on 12/12/2009 4:36:50 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: jws3sticks

Well, 2 things we should do and that is to begin to raise money to elect a secretary of state that will demand to see a BC before letting BHO on the ballot in that state. Also raise money to hire a competent big time lawyer to force the courts too look into this matter.

Also keep up the PR pressure, as BHO continues to fail people will take a harder look at him. I like one FReepers idea of leaving Post-It notes everywhere in public asking “Where’s the Birth Certificate?”


26 posted on 12/12/2009 4:39:07 AM PST by bjorn14 (Waterboard Obama. See if he knows anything.)
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To: nathanbedford

bookmark for later


27 posted on 12/12/2009 4:45:54 AM PST by John Galt's cousin (Palin - 2012: Our best hope!)
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28 posted on 12/12/2009 4:57:51 AM PST by McGruff (We're Going Rogue Baby!)
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To: BorderRaven

The essential issue for me was and still remains whether or not BHO is “natural born”. I welcome any proof that he is. He has spent a lot of money and energy to keep the various pieces of information that would address that question from ever being made public.


29 posted on 12/12/2009 4:59:19 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: theBuckwheat

Let me add that the courts seem to have about as much appetite for getting to the bottom of this issue as climate science appears to have for getting to the bottom of ClimateGate.


30 posted on 12/12/2009 5:01:14 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: BorderRaven

31 posted on 12/12/2009 5:43:43 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: bjorn14

Agreed


32 posted on 12/12/2009 5:51:00 AM PST by jws3sticks (Sarah Palin forever!)
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To: null and void

put me back on the birther ping list please


33 posted on 12/12/2009 6:21:48 AM PST by Shimmer1 (Don't worry about the world coming to an end today.It's already tomorrow in Australia(CharlesSchulz))
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To: Ancient Drive

“let’s see the BC BO..”

Like the Spartan’s at Thermopylae, I have been the resident birther on a Topix thread. 1000 posts laters, anti birthers are stymied by this simple argument, why can’t we see the BC? What’s the Kenyan hiding?

I have added a new twist. Like AGW deniers, birthers will be vindicated. Drives them nuts.


34 posted on 12/12/2009 7:06:30 AM PST by y6162 (uish..)
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To: nathanbedford; rocco55; thouworm; rxsid; GOPJ; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; ...

Ping.

See post #13.


35 posted on 12/12/2009 8:39:08 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 324 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: techno; WellyP

There has been an FOIA request for Stanley Ann Dunhams Passport records filed November 22, 2008 and State Dept will release them as soon as they get around to it. (over one year already) Chris Strunk filed the requests. Why is the
State Department dragging their feet and why isn’t this of National Importance to qualify for expedited service? (see page 2 below)

http://therightsideoflife.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/US_DOS_011209_Response_to_FOIA_of_101608_and_112208.pdf


36 posted on 12/12/2009 9:34:27 AM PST by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: theBuckwheat

Regardless of his birthplace, he was by his own admission born the son of a British citizen, and was therefore a British citizen at birth—and not a natural born citizen of the United States.


37 posted on 12/12/2009 10:04:02 AM PST by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: nathanbedford; null and void; Candor7; wintertime; Just A Nobody; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; All

Fine post.

I, for one, would stay away from the cul-de-sac called BC! I would like to see his complete education records. PERIOD!

Education records will shine the light on many hidden aspects of this ghost-of-a-president’s life and accomplishments, if any. I believe it will be more than enough to start the calls that will throw him out of office, on his ass!

Here are some suggestions for new language to combat the Left’s “Birther” moniker:

1- Ghoster
2- Teacher - teach kids how a minority person became prez
3- Historian - to document the history of the first Black Prez
4- Biographer - to complete and add to the prez books

Ghoster is the antidote to “Birther.” Once you stop talking about the BC and talk about education instead, what’s the left going to use for a comprehensible and a credible come back? Why would the education records be off limit? What privacy?


38 posted on 12/12/2009 10:16:10 AM PST by melancholy (Have no records will run........For President, that is!)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Who is “Martin Blaine Erickson” (sig near bottom) -—marked NOT a doctor or midwife but “OTHER” ...

Has anyone bothered to look for this person? Still alive?

Witness it seems .........

His children are alive? Lived in Hawaii in 1961???

Is the Grandmother’s signature real? Does anyone have other examples???

Did the Twins Birth Announcement ever turn up? Did anyone ask theeri Mom why not and if she registered or if the hospital did it for her???

Is there a single photo of a pregnant Stanley or photos inside the hospital or outside any hospital or any witness or any nurse or any doctor saying “Iwas there”?

Not a single photo of the Stanley pregnant, born, baby, up to 3 years old?

Only a single visit by the father in 40 years, at Honolulu airport , while he was waiting for his baggage?

During his month long stay in Hawaii when Obama was 7 or so, he only met Hussein one time for 20 minutes and didn’t tell a single one of his friends, EVER, that he had a son living then in Hawaii??????

No one finds all this bizarre and unbelievable even for the Dunham family???

and then there is this

“What kind of father only meets his own son once in 40 years, at an airport?

Even this simple fact seems to have been nearly non-reported.

and ...

If you were raised for 8 years, from the age of 10 to 18, by a card carrying bi-sexual radical AA Communist from Chicago with a 601 page FBI file, what kind of Community Organizer would you be?

One who prefers “Marxist professors”, so that you wouldn’t be a “sell-out”???

Is it any wonder no college records have been released, or ever will be?

HIs first pol, to whom he was “chief of staff”, flew often to Moscow for the Communist Party Congress and came back praising the Soviet Union. He didn’t quit and he didn’t protest.

When he cheated her by getting her kicked off the re-election ballot (using legalistic tricks, just like he does now), SHE never protested, nor would accept any interviews.

Can you say “Party Discipline???

I mean, his mother met his “father’ while studying Russian for God’s sakes -— in 1960 !!!

Have you never read in a history book that the Russians look for future agents in Russian Language classes? Of course! Where else to look?

Please read this, and tell everyone:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/13267412/The-Kenyan-Candidate-Obama-SetUp-Known-in-Moscow-in-1991-the-First-Time-I-Heard-of-Barack

Then ask yourself, and everyone around you:

Why do the President’s two daughters both have Russian names???

Why do they not exchange Christmas gifts???

Ever met any African-American who has two children, both with Russian names???

Ever met ANYONE who has two children, both with Russian names???

I haven’t.

Mmmm mmmmm mmmmmm.”

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/15127


39 posted on 12/12/2009 10:31:42 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: nathanbedford
The article cited goes on to describe three other methods by which a fraudulent certificate for Barack Obama could have been obtained in 1961 in Hawaii.

Unfortunately, those certificates issued by either the Territory of Hawaii or the State of Hawaii are not fraudulent. Obtaining a Certificate of Live Birth was a simple matter at the time designed with good intentions, i.e. to reunite families of guest plantation workers; but also with political intentions. The act created what we now call 'Anchor babies' who are US citizens, which enhanced and expedited the parents Naturalization process, increased the population at the time of Hawaii's bid for Statehood and continued for more than a decade after statehood, which in turn increased Federal funds to the state. It was calculated, deliberate and legal under the existing laws.

It could also serve other purposes as Madelyn Dunham knew from her experience working at Bank of Hawaii. On the only discovered form that appears valid, it's Madelyn's signature alone that attests to young Barry's birth. (This should raise eyebrows.)

It served her errant daughter and grandchild well.
40 posted on 12/12/2009 11:28:54 AM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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