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To: Thumper1960

No. I was asking CaptRon if that was what he wanted explained.
First of all, the OT has gone through so many translations, some of it has become disjointed. I believe there are things in the OT that are so remarkable that they are deliberately wrongfully explained because the truth would set the entire world to stumbling and mumbling.
There were an awful lot of things that the Hebrew Mystics kept to themselves so they could maintain a hierarchy and hold on to the reins of power. Those things have been lost.
It is extremely unfortunate.
But I can show you where there is a complete description of man’s transition from living on instinct and environment to the fullness of reason. Not from apes to man, but man at his beginning evolving to a man of reason. Of course, no one counts that as evolution in the Darwinian sense, certainly not me, and science chooses to overlook what the Bible says as myth. It isn’t. It is a virtual explanation of almost anything you need to know,physics, the nature of things, and even the extinction if things. But I believe in G-d with every fiber of my being, and the more I learn, the more I believe.
There are descriptions of men fleeing molten lava and seeing it burn through forests like trees were matchsticks, or lava flowing into water causing the lakes and rivers to boil. There are descriptions of dinosaurs and “sea monsters.”
But noone reads it that way because they completely reframed the context into some kind of OT Aesop’s Fable. It isn’t. It is literal.


603 posted on 12/11/2009 11:03:48 PM PST by MestaMachine (Your CORE is the path you walk. RINOs don't walk paths, they build roads to nowhere..)
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To: MestaMachine
You give a good argument for learning Hebrew and Aramaic. ;-) Many "books" were tossed out by the early church. They didn't fit what the church wanted the people to know, at the time. If you ever get the chance to sit down with a rabbi and really delve into the whole tradition and faith, do so. It's an eye opener........for anyone.
612 posted on 12/11/2009 11:11:48 PM PST by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: MestaMachine

I have somewhere near 40 books on the Christian religion on my bookshelves. Several versions of the Bible. No one dares to explain that verse.


620 posted on 12/11/2009 11:19:51 PM PST by CaptRon
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To: MestaMachine; metmom
First of all, the OT has gone through so many translations, some of it has become disjointed.

Are you at all familar with the Septuagint?

I believe there are things in the OT that are so remarkable that they are deliberately wrongfully explained because the truth would set the entire world to stumbling and mumbling.

Satan is the author of confusion not Jesus Christ.

Is it your belief that Jesus Christ would allow His Word to be "deliberately wrongfully explained," and, as the living embodiment of Truth Himself, the entire world is in your view merely to be left "stumbling and mumbling" because of that latter fact?

Care to point to any Scripture to back even one thing you have written here?

1,562 posted on 12/13/2009 2:10:46 PM PST by Agamemnon (Intelligent Design is to evolution what the Swift Boat Vets were to the Kerry campaign)
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