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To: presently no screen name
God’s plan of salvation was fulfilled in the New Testament and it was spoken about in the Old. I don’t see the old and new as separate, but as a continuation - and each one explaining the other. Jesus quoted Isaiah to John the Baptist when he questioned ‘are you the One’. It’s ONE Word. Don’t need a reminder of Who my God IS nor what my Jesus has done for me and everyone!

No need to argue. I was just noting what is (to me) the irony. Of course you believe that the Hebrew Bible and the "new testament" form a single revelation or you wouldn't be a chr*stian. But just as you are compelled to witness for your faith, I am compelled to point out that chr*stianity's claim that the "new testament" authoritatively interprets and "fulfills" the "old" is not self-evidently true.

No offense intended.

2,356 posted on 12/14/2009 2:50:03 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vaya`an Yosef 'et-Par`oh le'mor bil`aday; 'Eloqim ya`aneh 'et-shelom Par`oh.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
the "new testament" authoritatively interprets and "fulfills" the "old" is not self-evidently true

The old also speaks of the new - it works both ways. Jesus came to fulfill the law and He did just that. We are no longer under the 'law' but under grace. The new testament clearly shows that. If one choses to live under the law, they will be judged by the law. No one can honestly say they can live by the law. Remember what happened to the man when he picked up sticks on the Sabbath?

The law was imposed to show man what God's righteousness was. The religious were going around claiming to be righteous and He instituted the law to show what righteousness was and to reign in on all the lawlessness - and we ALL fall short and could never attain righteousness because of our sin nature. We needed a Savior.

Jesus, the spotless Lamb, came to fulfill the law for us. He covered the sins of all but many don't accept it; instead, think their good works or reading the bible or attending a service will get them to heaven. NOT SO! Unless one accepts Jesus as their Savior, who believe in what He did at The Cross, is covered. Even though he shed His blood for ALL. We must accept it by faith - not understand it - but by faith only. We receive salvation by His Grace through our faith in what He did for us. Jesus did His part - grace, we must do our part - faith. It's no wonder God's Word stresses obedience to His Word - whether we under stand it or not - obey first (faith) and understanding follows. Come to me as a child.

Why anyone thumbs their nose at a priceless paid in full gift is beyond me. Is it pride or a lack of knowledge - who knows. Jesus did his part but it's our decision in this lifetime where we want to spend eternity - according to HIS rules, not ours. It's not in God's hands, He already did everything so we can be with Him for eternity and that's what He wants and why Jesus came. That's why The Bible is called the Good News.

BTW, no offense taken or given.
2,379 posted on 12/14/2009 3:28:28 PM PST by presently no screen name
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