Okay thanks for the clarification. I believe this thread is the first time I have ever encountered Elsie. Still trying to figure out the personality/personalities.
Good luck with that, I have known elsie for a long time here on FR, we are both “flying inmans”, and I am STILL trying to figure him out.
Love ya, elsie. ;)
It's good to see you defending the church, as usual. I am continually amazed that so many on this board rely on men in funny clothes, rather the Word they supposedly represent. I'll not understand how they can call a man "father", when Jesus specifically said that was anathema. It's even more amazing that they worship relics and bow to statues, in light of Jesus' sacrifice. They wish to keep Him on the cross, rather than reveal a resurrected Savior, and Lord.
Their whole being is in their "church". Their children are raised on the Catechism, and rote is all they know. The Holy Spirit isn't for the masses, with them, it is reserved to a select group of mad-hatters. They lay up lots of treasure in Rome, in the name of art and posterity, while millions starve, and millions more don't hear the Truth of the Gospel.
Their priests teach them that the only way to God is through baptism and membership on their roles. They love to talk about all the prurient stuff, in the form of "cabinet confessionals", and repeat vain prayers in hopes of getting attention. Lighting a dollar candle supposedly helps get through.
The Roman Catholic Church has a Doctrine which clearly rejects the ability of the Holy Spirit to speak through God's written Word. They must not understand what Jesus said about everything I believe.
I have often compared the upbringing of the RC child as not dissimilar to that of a Islamic child. In Ireland, they even have the bombs to prove it!
I have a pretty good idea about Elsie. There is a distinct love for God and His Word displayed to fight error and cynicism. His church is all of us together. Believe it or not!
Romans 6: 1 What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? 2 By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? 3 Or don't you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.
5 If we have been united with him like this in his death, we will certainly also be united with him in his resurrection. 6 For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin— 7 because anyone who has died has been freed from sin.
8 Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him. 9 For we know that since Christ was raised from the dead, he cannot die again; death no longer has mastery over him. 10 The death he died, he died to sin once for all; but the life he lives, he lives to God.
11 In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. 12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. 13 Do not offer the parts of your body to sin, as instruments of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God, as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer the parts of your body to him as instruments of righteousness. 14 For sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace. -NIV