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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3; reaganaut; Elsie
Good morning, Elsie.

It's good to see you defending the church, as usual. I am continually amazed that so many on this board rely on men in funny clothes, rather the Word they supposedly represent. I'll not understand how they can call a man "father", when Jesus specifically said that was anathema. It's even more amazing that they worship relics and bow to statues, in light of Jesus' sacrifice. They wish to keep Him on the cross, rather than reveal a resurrected Savior, and Lord.

Their whole being is in their "church". Their children are raised on the Catechism, and rote is all they know. The Holy Spirit isn't for the masses, with them, it is reserved to a select group of mad-hatters. They lay up lots of treasure in Rome, in the name of art and posterity, while millions starve, and millions more don't hear the Truth of the Gospel.

Their priests teach them that the only way to God is through baptism and membership on their roles. They love to talk about all the prurient stuff, in the form of "cabinet confessionals", and repeat vain prayers in hopes of getting attention. Lighting a dollar candle supposedly helps get through.

The Roman Catholic Church has a Doctrine which clearly rejects the ability of the Holy Spirit to speak through God's written Word. They must not understand what Jesus said about everything I believe.

I have often compared the upbringing of the RC child as not dissimilar to that of a Islamic child. In Ireland, they even have the bombs to prove it!

I have a pretty good idea about Elsie. There is a distinct love for God and His Word displayed to fight error and cynicism. His church is all of us together. Believe it or not!

Romans 6: 1 What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? 2 By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? 3 Or don't you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.

5 If we have been united with him like this in his death, we will certainly also be united with him in his resurrection. 6 For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin— 7 because anyone who has died has been freed from sin.

8 Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him. 9 For we know that since Christ was raised from the dead, he cannot die again; death no longer has mastery over him. 10 The death he died, he died to sin once for all; but the life he lives, he lives to God.

11 In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. 12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. 13 Do not offer the parts of your body to sin, as instruments of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God, as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer the parts of your body to him as instruments of righteousness. 14 For sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace. -NIV

2,152 posted on 12/14/2009 8:39:31 AM PST by WVKayaker (www.wherezobama.org / Obama's Excellent Adventure ...)
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To: WVKayaker

“I have often compared the upbringing of the RC child as not dissimilar to that of a Islamic child. In Ireland, they even have the bombs to prove it!”

Whoa there kayaker. Understand your history before spouting such bigotry.There are two sides to the Troubles, and one of them is decidedly (and very violently) Protestant.


2,155 posted on 12/14/2009 8:42:10 AM PST by DGray
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“I have often compared the upbringing of the RC child as not dissimilar to that of a Islamic child.”

And one more thing. Muslims are Young Earth Creationists, just like the Protestants like yourself, and teach that science is the enemy of faith, just like Protestants like yourself. Perhaps you should meditate for a while on this fact.


2,156 posted on 12/14/2009 8:44:45 AM PST by DGray
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To: WVKayaker
But it is not for us in the flesh to ‘judge’ others in their beliefs. I have Catholic liberal voting in-laws, and then I have a garden variety of Protestants on the other side, most of which also vote democrat.

The Catholic in-laws have been taught that ‘evolution’ is settled science and the so called ‘old’ Testament is allegorical and symbolic. And since their Church is the oldest and has the majority in numbers they are on the ‘right’ side.

Now the Protestants have their own religious hang ups regarding what they have been told about how old this earth literally is. And some of them are anti-wine, and this and that, some even believe they have a ticket out of here when things get real bad.

BUT when all is said and done all of the Heavenly Father's children of whatever belief are going to get to have a one on one face to face accounting, and their only advocate will be Christ. Not a spouse, a parent, a child, or a preacher/priest or some church doctrine. The Heavenly Father created each and every individual soul/spirit.

And that is what this ‘war’ against US comes down to, the ripping up and out that knowledge our founding fathers knew without doubt, that the Heavenly Father is the Creator and He gave US unalienable ‘rights’ that NO man/government can take. And whether these of the evolutionary theory can see or not it is that tail that blinds the mind that removed from our young through public education they are born with God given rights they must learn to protect and defend.

2,166 posted on 12/14/2009 9:03:17 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: WVKayaker
An anti-Catholic post from WVKayaker?

Wow, must be a day ending in "y."

I've got to hand it to you for efficiency: you cram a lot of false statements about Catholics and the Catholic Church into a very small space.

2,167 posted on 12/14/2009 9:04:08 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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