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To: Elsie
"Then either one or both of these subjects must be poorly understood by you."

ROME (AP) — A Vatican cardinal said yesterday that the Catholic Church does not stand in the way of scientific realities like evolution, though he described as “absurd” the atheist notion that evolution proves there is no God.

Cardinal William Levada, head of the Vatican’s Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, reiterated church teaching about faith and science at the start of a Vatican-sponsored conference marking the 150th anniversary of Charles Darwin’s “The Origin of Species.”

Speaking on the sidelines of the conference, Levada said the Vatican believed there was a “wide spectrum of room” for belief in both the scientific basis for evolution and faith in God the creator.

“We believe that however creation has come about and evolved, ultimately God is the creator of all things,” he said.

He said although the Vatican did not exclude any area of science, it did reject as “absurd” the atheist notion of biologist and author Richard Dawkins and others that evolution proves there is no God.

“Of course we think that’s absurd and not at all proven,” he said. “But other than that ... the Vatican has recognized that it doesn’t stand in the way of scientific realities.”

The Vatican under Pope Benedict XVI has been trying to stress its belief that there is no incompatibility between faith and reason.

1,358 posted on 12/13/2009 9:03:01 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law
The Vatican under Pope Benedict XVI has been trying to stress its belief that there is no incompatibility between faith and reason.

When did "reason" become a synonym for science, must less uniformitarianism?

1,359 posted on 12/13/2009 9:05:52 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vaya`an Yosef 'et-Par`oh le'mor bil`aday; 'Eloqim ya`aneh 'et-shelom Par`oh.)
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To: Natural Law; Elsie
What scientific *realities*?

Science isn't about truth anyway, but the best explanation for the data.

Nothing in science is proved, therefore nothing can be said to be certain.

Why would the church adjust Scripture to fit scientific theory?

The Vatican under Pope Benedict XVI has been trying to stress its belief that there is no incompatibility between faith and reason.

That's a kind of backhanded statement. Who said faith is opposite of reason? Or that faith is not reasonable?

1,367 posted on 12/13/2009 9:57:11 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Natural Law
The Vatican under Pope Benedict XVI has been trying to stress its belief that there is no incompatibility between faith and reason.

And then we have The Word of The Lord.

Proverbs 3:5
Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding (reasoning)

Hebrews 11:6.
"Without faith it is impossible to please God."

Settled. Faith and reasoning is NOT compatible.
1,467 posted on 12/13/2009 12:13:47 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Natural Law

Natural Law believes his ancestors were small invertebrates and disregards the Bible in deference to men.


2,082 posted on 12/14/2009 5:28:24 AM PST by RoadGumby (Ask me about Ducky)
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