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To: muawiyah; ansel12; metmom
Yes, I'm sure there are many areas of Utah that are close to 90% Mormon, and there are many places in the bible belt that are close to 90% "fundamentalist protestant", (if I can use that term) where they all pretty much share the same "sola scriptura" ideology and rarely encounter another type of Christian. For example, here's the religious demographics for the entire state of Mississippi:

82% Protestant
10.8% Agnostic/No Religion
4.7% Catholic
2% Other Religions
0.5% LDS

Note that the two largest denominations of Christianity in the world, Catholic and Orthodox, although they number 1.5 billion Christians worldwide, make up less than 5% of the population in that state. Perhaps that explains why they seem so alien in portions of the bible belt. No one who has even the basic understanding of Catholicism would claim Catholics never read the bible in church or that the mass is in Latin so the laypeople won't understand it. The only way someone could possibly argue that honestly (and I've seen it argued repeatedly on FR) is that they've never been inside a Catholic church or had a close relationship with a practicing Catholic their entire lives.

Furthermore, Orthodox Christianity is seen as "unusual" to both Catholics and Protestants since our nation is overwhelmingly western-style Christianity (again around 90%). Orthodoxy is an eastern tradition, and the first encounter with eastern Christianity is very startling to other Christians, since eastern Christianity has a very different worldview and empathizes things very differently, including a heavy use of mysthesism, chanting, and artwork to communicate with Jesus personally. Many American Christians would be really shocked at the type of Christianity prevailent in nations like Romania (87% orthodox), because the services and worship style is completely different from what we expect to see in a Christian church.

For example, my new congregation is an eastern Catholic church (Byzantine Catholic) that many Roman Catholics are shocked to discover is a Catholic church, even though the Pope's picture is prominently on display there. The entire building and its congregation do things quite differently than you'd find in a stereotypical Roman Catholic congregation that's mostly irish or italian-Americans. Even when people drive by, they assume it's a mosque because of the design of the building.

Catholicism and Orthodoxy are older forms of Christianity than Protestantism, and if you look at the historical record you will notice that the bible in its present form wasn't complied until 393 A.D. at the earliest. Christianity for the first 400 years certainly couldn't rely on the same bible for what "Christianity" teaches. Took them a while to decide what books were canon and how to translate them.

Bigotry against forms of Christianity people aren't used to are nothing new. It's a culture shock. I honestly believe alot of bible-thumping "sola scripture" protestants think only their form of Christianity is valid, and is the major "mainstream" Christian ideal in the world, when it reality about 2/3rds of major Christian denominations in the world don't follow their beliefs.

BTW, the Byzantine Catholic congregation I believe in a very conservative, strict (right now they're abstaining form all meat 3 days a week in preparation for Christmas) bible-centered church with a terrific colorful pastor who speaks out against the Obama worshippers on a regular basis. They are extremely active in the pro-life community as well. I get really tired of hearing how those of us who believe in evolution are all God-hating atheists who support abortion and gay "marriage"

1,222 posted on 12/12/2009 7:58:02 PM PST by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy

Mormon isn’t Protestant Christian, so Utah isn’t in the mix, you still have a long way to answering my post 1078 to you.

I challenged this statement of yours.

“There seem to be a lot of fundamentalist protestants on FR who have a very narrow world view. They live in regions that are 90% protestant, and probably haven’t encountered many non-protestants in their everyday lives. When they encounter non-protestants on the Internet they don’t see them as real Christians, but probably weird cults.”


1,231 posted on 12/12/2009 8:23:53 PM PST by ansel12 (Traitor Earl Warren's court 1953-1969, libertarian hero, anti social conservative warrior.)
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To: BillyBoy
I honestly believe alot of bible-thumping "sola scripture" protestants think only their form of Christianity is valid, and is the major "mainstream" Christian ideal in the world, when it reality about 2/3rds of major Christian denominations in the world don't follow their beliefs.

who deny others are "Christian" do so because they have a narrow view of the world

What does Christianity have to do w/a narrow view of the world? Not every one who claims Christianity is going to heaven. Why all the statistics? What are you trying so hard to prove? The fact is there are some who claim to be Christians but they are not! It's not my thought - read what the Judge Himself says.

Matthew 7:13 "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.

Luke 13:24 "Strive to enter through the narrow door; for many, I tell you, will seek to enter and will not be able.

Matt 7:21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
1,318 posted on 12/13/2009 12:21:18 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: BillyBoy
No, you can't refer to Protestants that way ~ they vary from the Christian Church which is pretty much the same (theologically) as any Orthodox congregation (sans priests, bishops, etc.) you ever encountered all the way through to the real snake-handlers, and by that we don't mean apostate Episcopalians but the guys who have rattlesnakes in church ~ they're more like the Hindus than anything else except they no longer do the burnt offering.

Now, the "fundies" ~ I'm simply after returning the word to its normal usage pre-Scopes.

Regarding Unitate church affairs, we have one up the way right off the Beltway near Gallows Road. Have known several people there over the years ~ one of them was the "big boss" for a while, and then there was this woman who had to have been the most beautiful Ukrainian on Earth ~ and I suspect you know exactly who I'm referring to.

1,472 posted on 12/13/2009 12:19:57 PM PST by muawiyah (Git Out The Way)
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