Posted on 12/11/2009 5:57:16 PM PST by Jim Robinson
You Dont a Have a Soul,
You ARE A Soul, You Have A Body.
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I love this!
yes. but different from the ones we know here. adapted to their evironment. and since they were isolated for so long genetic changes were passed to their offspring that weren’t to the mainland birds
Can I hear a loud AMEN folks?
Who said? Even those who argue for a young earth, six day translation of creation often argue that there were far fewer 'kinds' before the flood (in order to figure how all those animals fit on the ark) and that 'microevolution' since then generated all the diversity we see now. If one pair of 'canines' on the ark can microevolve into the tens of thousands of different dog species we see now, in just a few thousand years, what would you get if you had the same rate of change, but extend the timeline the other direction by millions of years?
...per previous.. may be worth taking to another thread to chat about so we don’t drift Jim’s thread too off topic. If you want to do that and keep discussing, ping me.
LOL!! I guess so. I just expressed my lack of understanding and here we are off!
However no one has been ugly or anything, not that I can see. Even disagreeing Freepers are pretty cool for the most part.
If your instinct tells you that that it's all Politics with a capital P behind much of biological science, then your instincts are correct. Just as Phil Jones and Michael Mann have corrupted "climate science" (whatever the heck that means) by their own greed, vanity, and ideology, so too do biological scientists seek self-aggrandizement over humble scientific inquiry.
Just remember the word "species" is quite malleable, especially by those on the Left. My personal opinion is that the word is being corrupted for political gain. After all, if we can split the western flycatcher into 2 suboscine species that are virtually identical -- the Cordilleran and the pacific-slope -- then in a roundabout way, we've "proven" the exigency and expedition of evolution in action, haven't we?
They took the word "gay," and corrupted it. They're trying to take the word "marriage" and corrupt it. Tomorrow, it will be the word "species."
Yes, appalling.
Exactly.
Thanks Jim.
The law allows you to consider HABITAT and RANGE. So, if a bunch of pigeons prefer the playground at School 9, and another bunch prefer the court house downtown, they are, under the law, 2 different species and entitled to whatever protections the laws might allow to keep them from going extinct.
That might include public seizure of private land, prohibition of hunting an "endangered species" with 6 billion members, restrictions on cutting down trees, or planting trees (Fairfax County actually did that ~ guy planted the right trees in the wrong spots, and the wrong trees in the right spots so they sued his britches off and bankrupted him).
And just what is the political object behind all this?
Again, I don't let the opposition own the words, and that includes opposition owned or controlled dictionaries. They are still on their kick of isolating the term "Fundamentalism" to the anti-evolution crowd that got involved in the Scopes trial nearly a century ago. I, on the other hand, want the term recognized to be more broadly inclusive of all within the pale of Christian tradition, or Judeo-Christian theological tradition.
Whoever the Scopes people were is simply not relevant here.
Thank you.
Why, welcome to FR - to a longtime lurker!
Yes it seems more and more there are these “stand-up” moments occurring happening...perhaps in preparation for what is ahead.
Well, “beyond the pale” of that tradition, is there no room for science?
Well, how would a different sub-species of a bird be any different? A finch is a finch whether it has different colors or beak style.
It is not you.
No.
On the Internet, no one can hear your murmurs.
All they can do is see the sparks that fly from your fingers.
Which leads me to ask "what are you trying to get at"?
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