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Michigan Passes State Smoking Ban
Cigar Aficionado ^ | December 11, 2009 | David Savona

Posted on 12/11/2009 2:10:09 PM PST by arealconservativeforachange

Michigan's state Senate and House passed a smoking ban that will make indoor smoking illegal, save for gambling areas, cigar bars and cigar shops. The measure, HB 4377, passed by a vote of 24 to 13 in the Senate and was overwhelmingly approved by the House in a vote of 75 to 30.

The legislation will become law when Gov. Jennifer Granholm signs it; she has come out in favor of such legislation, according to press reports from Michigan. The law will go into effect May 1.

Exemptions to the legislation include cigar bars, tobacco stores and casinos. A smoking ban had been in the works for years. "The bill was a product of compromise and support from several different major entities in the state, including the casino and health lobby, and the International Premium Cigar and Pipe Retailers association and the Cigar Association of America," said Chris McCalla, legislative director of the IPCPR. "The bill also had the support of most IPCPR retailers in the state. Without this compromise bill, we would have most likely faced a difficult, costly, and likely loss in fighting a no-exemptions smoking ban bill that would have gone to a ballot vote in 2010."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: cancersticks; causescancer; libertarians; medicalmarijuana; michigan; nannystate; pufflist; smokingban
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To: arealconservativeforachange

With the Republic crumbling around their ears, it is amazing what these local politicians focus upon.


21 posted on 12/11/2009 5:54:53 PM PST by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Atom Smasher

So...did Grantheft sell Michigan for 30 pieces of silver and all the water the state holds?


22 posted on 12/11/2009 6:12:50 PM PST by madison10
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To: elkfersupper

You have to give the paid activists credit for single minded determination if nothing else. They are focused.

People were still being grieved in NO when they passed a State smoker ban which exempted bars. Thank God, had a great time there a couple of years ago when I still smoked.

A couple of years after 9/11 Bloomberg banned smoking in bars and restaurants which solved all their problems.

(sarcasm) You underestimate the brilliance of these geniuses (/sarcasm)


23 posted on 12/11/2009 6:50:50 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (The "Military-Industrial Complex" is so 1940s. Now BEWARE the Government-Academia-Media Complex.)
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To: libertarian27

And how do they plan to enforce the “Home office” rule lol

I work from home.. we have a business that runs out of our home.. I will OPENLY flaunt my smoking in my home office, I dare them to come to my home and tell me what I can do in my own home.

Thankfully I live in NV and they have not tried this garbage yet.. but I DARE them to try and enforce it.


24 posted on 12/11/2009 8:30:22 PM PST by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: madison10

The fed can not have our Great Lakes....period!

What a bunch of schmucks!


25 posted on 12/12/2009 3:36:15 AM PST by Atom Smasher
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To: XenaLee
If the elitist DemocRats in government succeed in taking over healthcare, they'll be taxing and then outlawing anything and everything that 'they consider' to be unhealthy...

I think they'll keep tobacco, liquor, greasy, fast food etc. legal and just refuse to give those people who indulge any health care. That way they can still collect the tax money on those products and SAVE money by only providing health care to people who "deserve" it.

And I am only being half-way sarcastic about that. I truly am that cynical.

26 posted on 12/12/2009 5:35:49 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: libertarian27

Since they mentioned motor vehicles, that means they’re next.


27 posted on 12/12/2009 6:17:28 AM PST by ichabod1 ( I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet.)
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To: XenaLee

It’s called totalitarianism.


28 posted on 12/12/2009 6:20:36 AM PST by ichabod1 ( I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet.)
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To: eXe

You won’t be able to sell your house if its been smoked in.


29 posted on 12/12/2009 6:23:01 AM PST by ichabod1 ( I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet.)
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To: ichabod1

Ok, here is the trick.. one has to PROVE I smoked in it.. I know the normal line here is “You can always tell” but a coat of paint and a few other tricks, no one is the wiser. Most people have no idea I smoke at home.. then again I am a neat freak, nothing gets dirty here.

That or “The previous owner smoked in it”

Besides, selling my house has nothing to do with smoking in my OWN home office.


30 posted on 12/12/2009 6:28:55 AM PST by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: arealconservativeforachange

Drunk with power, they are unaware that they rule a dead state.

Michigan was


31 posted on 12/12/2009 6:37:34 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Lukenbach Texas is barely there)
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To: eXe
Besides, selling my house has nothing to do with smoking in my OWN home office.

Sure is does.....Someone somewhere will figure out a way to ban smoking in homes, they are already doing it in apartments and condos. Smokers are not allowed to foster children in the UK in many areas.

With the advent of the dreaded [3rd hand smoke] they will figure out a way to gain taxation/fees in order for anyone to sell their house who may have smoked in it.

Some 'level of exposure' will be found and a consensus formed, the molecules will need to be excised for a fee and a certification given.(Think asbestos and lead;treated and tented homes before re-sale for smoke extraction). You may not sell your house otherwise.

Private business owners have bowed to the government, why would us private home owners think we have more rights then them?

We are all equal - the playing fields will be leveled. :(

32 posted on 12/12/2009 7:07:47 AM PST by libertarian27 (Land of the FEE, home of the SHAMED)
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To: arealconservativeforachange

Did the MI legislature really feel it necessary to pass more legislation to demonstrate why it finds itself in the economic dumpster?


33 posted on 12/14/2009 6:57:56 AM PST by FourPeas (Why does Professor Presbury's wolfhound, Roy, endeavour to bite him?)
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To: skimbell

The same people who claim that “the government would never ration health care” are the same folks that have pushing the incremental move of the nanny state in the name of fighting that evil tobacco.

The saddest thing is that a few FReepers will celebrate their victory.


34 posted on 12/14/2009 8:52:54 AM PST by CSM (The only reason a conservative should reach across the aisle is to slap a little sense into a lib!)
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To: skimbell
The dirty azzwipes now have it illegal to smoke in your own home in some areas.

The smoke could drift to a local school, and children could be affected. You must be controlled so we can remain safe.

35 posted on 12/14/2009 8:57:38 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

I smoke...on average, a pack a week. So, f*ck me?


36 posted on 12/14/2009 4:21:06 PM PST by equaviator ("There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: equaviator
I smoke...on average, a pack a week. So, f*ck me?

Uh.....F-you? That would be dependent on yourself, not me. I have no knowledge in regards to that f-stuff.

My only beef is the cost...How could you possibly afford a pack a week? I'd be living on an off-ramp with that expense.

37 posted on 12/15/2009 7:58:31 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

“How could you possibly afford a pack a week? I’d be living on an off-ramp with that expense.”

It’s easier to go from two packs a week to just one than it would be to go from two packs a day down to one pack a day.
Cost reduction being the main case for the former with health issues and cost being the main cases for the latter. If you’re smoking two packs a day, the issue becomes the overall monetary cost plus the inevitable health risks.


38 posted on 12/16/2009 4:20:09 AM PST by equaviator ("There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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