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It flies! Airbus' hulking A400M has maiden flight
Product Design and Development ^ | Friday, December 11, 2009 | EMMA VANDORE

Posted on 12/11/2009 11:12:33 AM PST by null and void

It flies! Airbus' hulking A400M has maiden flight

The A400M military transport plane that has been causing Airbus and European defense ministers budgetary and logistical headaches finally took to the skies for its maiden flight on Friday.

But even as the hulking, gray airlifter took off from the Spanish city of Seville, defense officials were to meet on the ground to decide how to continue with the much delayed and over budget project.

The A400M program was launched six years ago with an order for 180 planes from seven governments — Belgium, Britain, France, Germany, Luxembourg, Spain and Turkey. The project is running at least three years late.

The original price was €20 billion ($29.46 billion), but a preliminary report by auditors PricewaterhouseCoopers said EADS might need an extra €5 billion — inflating the final bill by 25 percent, a person familiar with the talks said on condition of anonymity, as he is not authorized to speak to reporters.

EADS has asked governments to renegotiate the initial contract, which was agreed along the lines of Airbus' standard fixed price commercial contracts, rather than a risk-sharing military deal.

Airbus CEO Tom Enders has slammed the contract agreed by his predecessor, which saddles the European planemaker with most of the costs of delays.

But asking governments to pay more has become difficult at a time when countries' budgets have ballooned as they fight off the worst of the economic crisis.

As well as raising the price, officials could agree to cut the number of planes on order, reduce the specifications, or spread increased payments out over time.

Officials meeting in Seville will try to overcome a deadlock between countries such as France and Britain, whose militaries need the aircraft urgently, and other countries, such as Germany, that have budget concerns.

Ministers are hoping to agree in principle to continue with the project before the end of the year, possibly at a meeting next week, according to the person familiar with the talks. But the tricky details probably won't be pinned down until the contract signing in late March or early April, the person said.

As well as price, governments need to decide on technical specifications and delivery schedule.

Abandoning the project would cost EADS €5.7 billion ($8.4 billion) in advance payments it would have to return to governments — and would dent its credibility. It has already has put aside €2.4 billion in provisions against losses related to the plane.

The A400M is designed to replace Lockheed Martin Corp.'s aging C-130 Hercules cargo aircraft used by the U.S. Air Force as well as the retired C-160 Transall transport aircraft developed by a French and German consortium.


C130 Hercules


C-160 Transall


A400M It should almost double its predecessors' cargo capacity and have a range of up to 4,000 miles (6,400 kilometers).

South Africa recently pulled out of an order for eight A400Ms, leaving Malaysia as the only export customer.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: a400m; aerospace
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Designed by a multinational multiethnic committee and built to milspec.

What could possibly go wrong?

1 posted on 12/11/2009 11:12:33 AM PST by null and void
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Pound for pound, and specific to its mission, just about the finest airplane ever designed and built.

3 posted on 12/11/2009 11:15:22 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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It looks like an old C141 with propellers.


4 posted on 12/11/2009 11:17:13 AM PST by JBR34
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So far eleven 1.5 hour trips in and out of theater. Finally learned how to grab a nap on one of those hogs. (Don't sleep for the previous 36 hours.)
5 posted on 12/11/2009 11:17:39 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this)
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To: null and void

How big is its carbon footprint?....................


6 posted on 12/11/2009 11:17:55 AM PST by Red Badger (Al Gore is the Bernie Madoff of environmentalism. He belongs in jail. - Unknown Blogger)
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To: null and void

Looks like an old Soviet knock-off.


7 posted on 12/11/2009 11:20:49 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Red Badger

It flies. Now that is a scary thought; people would be much safer if it didn’t.


8 posted on 12/11/2009 11:21:39 AM PST by inpajamas (http://outskirtspress.com/ONE)
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To: JBR34
It looks like an old C141 with propellers.

Except shorter, and fatter.

Now this girl deserves some notice:


9 posted on 12/11/2009 11:23:16 AM PST by rjsimmon (1-20-2013 The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: null and void

Ann Coulter said it best: “Diversity is an OBSTACLE to OVERCOME, not a goal to be achieved”


10 posted on 12/11/2009 11:23:20 AM PST by Mr. K (Deathly afraid my typos become a freeper catchphrase...I'm series!)
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To: Rummyfan

Would make a helluva flying camper wouldn’t it! Wonder how much they will go for on the surplus market.


11 posted on 12/11/2009 11:23:27 AM PST by Boiling point (Beck / Palin 2012)
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To: null and void

bump


12 posted on 12/11/2009 11:23:53 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream.)
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To: JBR34
Yes! Exactly.

I was thinking Soviet, but didn't the USSR make a knock-off of a Starlifter?.

Looked kinda like this, minus the dish:


13 posted on 12/11/2009 11:25:16 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Rummyfan

I have more than 1000 hours in the 4-fan trash can from A model to H.


14 posted on 12/11/2009 11:26:32 AM PST by FormerRep
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To: Rummyfan

The greatest hauler in history. My beloved Hercules.


15 posted on 12/11/2009 11:26:40 AM PST by pfflier
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Looks more like a C-5 Galaxy with propellers to me.


16 posted on 12/11/2009 11:29:34 AM PST by BubbaBasher ("Liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals" - Sam Adams)
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To: FormerRep
In the cockpit or back with the “stuff”?
17 posted on 12/11/2009 11:30:31 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this)
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To: null and void

No ducts for the fans?


18 posted on 12/11/2009 11:31:21 AM PST by Paladin2
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Tough getting a window seat too.


19 posted on 12/11/2009 11:35:00 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this)
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When I see an A400M do what the C-130 gunship can do, then It will be worth something.


20 posted on 12/11/2009 11:35:36 AM PST by cranked
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