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Those darn unintended consequences rear their ugly heads once again!
1 posted on 12/11/2009 9:18:03 AM PST by jpl
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This stinks... LED lights, to me anyway, are much easier to see at night.


2 posted on 12/11/2009 9:19:48 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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Making life better by making it worse.


3 posted on 12/11/2009 9:20:15 AM PST by boocoowell (Nuclear power now!)
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This shouldn’t be a problem since battery powered cars probably won’t run in freezing weather anyways ;-)


4 posted on 12/11/2009 9:20:15 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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Grandma was killed in a traffic accident!!! *sniff* Well, as long as the city has saved thousands in power bills... I guess it was a worthy cause./s


5 posted on 12/11/2009 9:21:00 AM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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Jiminy crickets.

I thought civil engineers thought of things like this. Yeah, they'll save electricity, but how much are you paying all those work crews? And if they are on overtime, forget it!

6 posted on 12/11/2009 9:22:22 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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Oh what a tangled web we weave,,,, i love these kind of consequences,,


7 posted on 12/11/2009 9:24:03 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs earn thi title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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I know the traffic engineer where I live. The city installed LED lights about a year ago, and he predicted the same thing would happen with his. The city planners were so entralled about the energy savings that they completely overlooked the traffic hazard they present in the winter time.


10 posted on 12/11/2009 9:27:36 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Socialism is hip until somebody loses a paycheck)
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we have a whacked liberal City Councilman in Pittsburgh who wants to convert all of our street lights to LED...


13 posted on 12/11/2009 9:31:23 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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Thermostat

Space heater

Only draws power in very cold weather

Do I have to think of everything?

14 posted on 12/11/2009 9:32:11 AM PST by willgolfforfood
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"LED lights have saved thousands of dollars in monthly power bills."

All negated in one or 2 days of crews cleaning off the lights.

18 posted on 12/11/2009 9:35:34 AM PST by Deaf Smith
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Why is this an issue? The traffic regs say if the light is out, including if it cannot be understood, then you treat the light as a red light and stop. Anyone blowing through a controlled intersection is an idiot.


20 posted on 12/11/2009 9:35:46 AM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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No problem! They’ll just install heaters so the total energy use = 125% of the old way.


21 posted on 12/11/2009 9:38:11 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("'Diversity' is one of those words designed to absolve you of the need to think." Mark Steyn)
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Yuk, yuk, yuk.

Reminds me of that time in the 70s that Chicago bought a whole bunch of new, improved road salt that would melt snow down to 0 degrees F.

Only problem was that it gets to zero a lot in Chicago, then what was melted before would refreeze into a real slick sheet of ice and couldn't be melted.

23 posted on 12/11/2009 9:38:32 AM PST by HIDEK6
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When I was in Vietnam years ago, we kept a lit 60W light bulb in the bottom of our barracks lockers so that our clothing and other stuff didn’t get moldy. It isn’t just for cold weather that we NEED incandescent lights.


25 posted on 12/11/2009 9:39:27 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Hoax and Change)
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Interesting that they mention snow and ice on the traffic lights were a contributing factor to the accidents, but not whether the snow and ice on the road surface was a factor also.
27 posted on 12/11/2009 9:43:23 AM PST by Between the Lines (For their sins of 50 million abortions God gave them over to be an ObamaNation {Romans 1:24-32})
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This guy is going to make a mint off this problem:

US Patent 7211771 - De-icing system for traffic signals

29 posted on 12/11/2009 9:47:42 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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Wait a minute! We have those new energy-efficient mercury-filled-curly-cued-lightbulbs- just the thing to do the trick to heat up the LED`s!


35 posted on 12/11/2009 9:52:38 AM PST by bunkerhill7 (God bless)
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They could have left the red incandescent bulbs in place and still had cost savings on electricity.


36 posted on 12/11/2009 9:53:56 AM PST by FreedomOfExpression
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Once the jackasses have blinders on, it’s hard to get them off.


37 posted on 12/11/2009 9:55:21 AM PST by votemout
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Not to pee on the smacking-the-lib-fest we got going here, but what ever happened to the old standby of treating the intersection as a four-way stop when the lights are out/can't be seen?

I realize not all traffic from all directions will be affected as the blowing snow/ice generally will only cover part of the light, but can't these lights be centrally controled and turned to flashing red if it appears something is wrong for at least one direction of traffic? Also, as was mentioned in a previous post, what about a simple thermal switch and heating coil to kick on when temps drop below a certain level?

38 posted on 12/11/2009 9:55:47 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
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