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To: Windflier
Your comments make me believe that you haven't read through this entire thread. Compare your charge to my commentary here, and I think you'll see that it's unjustified.

No, I admit I did not. I saw an obviously inappropriate comment and I called him/her on it, but my "white anger" comment wasn't descriptive of that FR poster, just the general building attitude of negativity by white America against black America. As I'm sure you're aware, nothing happens in a vacuum, and actions have consequences. While it's certainly arguable (to a point) that whites more-or-less created the dependent class that exists today (and even that argument would be a serious stretch), the flat out anger and hatred directed to us by blacks from all over the country has basically taken any and all good will that whites wish to extend and smashed it. So, now a reasonable person sees any black person anywhere as a potential threat (physically, to a potentially undeserved job, etc.) merely because of the color of that person's skin. Wrong or right, that's just how it's become. I don't like it, but how else can we react? Hard working people who do what they're supposed to do (black and white) are smacked down by the dependents for "not doing enough." Well what the hell am I supposed to do? And how am I supposed to know which blacks actively hate me and which ones don't care about me either way and are just going about their business?

Literally, a great number of black people hate me, personally, though they don't know me, because I don't empty my bank account and hand all my money and possessions to the first black person I see. And even then they would hate me because they would demand to know why it took me so long.

These are the things that are truly plaguing the black/white race relations. All things being equal, I genuinely don't give a damn about skin color, but things aren't equal, and there are some incredibly scary, angry people that will do great harm to me and my family due to my skin color. Therefore it calls for my vigilance, and it angers me that it has to be this way. Especially for reasons that blacks actually do have control over, whether many of them choose to believe it or not. Schools exist. Scholarships exist. Libraries exist. Tutoring, mentoring, apprenticing, etc. all exist. But a great many pretend there are no opportunities for them, and it's my fault and the fault of many others who look like me.

There's no logic to the argument, no reasoning behind the demands, just pure anger and violence. And, frankly, whites are getting absolutely sick of it. What you're seeing on this thread from some of the less, shall we say, articulate among us, is some of that anger coming to the surface. I'm sure it upsets and angers you, I know I don't like to be talked to like that, but this is how things are coming to a head.

God help us if/when it's fully unleashed.

410 posted on 12/11/2009 8:42:15 AM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: Future Snake Eater
...the flat out anger and hatred directed to us by blacks from all over the country has basically taken any and all good will that whites wish to extend and smashed it. So, now a reasonable person sees any black person anywhere as a potential threat...

Obviously, that statement troubles me greatly, if I accept that the sentiment is widespread among whites. It's a pointed threat to my basic survival.

Outside of wearing some sort of conservative identity badge, I don't know how normal, hard-working, non-hating blacks can differentiate themselves from the "hate Whitey" class.

In my observation, one can tell a lot about a person within the first few seconds of observing them. Call it profiling, if you will. There are tell-tale indicators that any reasonably astute person can pick up on, if they're looking.

I would hope that most whites will continue to use their powers of observation when interacting with blacks, and not automatically condemn every black person they encounter on a purely reactive basis.

At the very least, I would hope that they give each black person they meet an opportunity to show them who and what they really are before they judge.

Obviously, there are some "profiles" that will put any white (or black) person on an immediate defensive posture. I don't blame anyone for reacting that way to obvious bad indicators.

All things being equal, I genuinely don't give a damn about skin color, but things aren't equal, and there are some incredibly scary, angry people that will do great harm to me and my family due to my skin color.

I could have written the exact same statement. To this day, I am still uneasy about going into certain zones or regions of the country, even though I live in a semi-rural area that some would describe as cow country. I've lived with that uneasiness all of my life. It's eased up a great deal over the last couple of decades, but it's not gone completely.

Like you, I am disheartened that things are this way. We were supposed to be past all of this by now, but race hustlers like Jackson and Sharpton have continued to stoke the fires of racial division and hate for decades. I blame that cottage industry for the overt hatred you see among some blacks today. It's unreasoning, and totally manufactured, as far as I can tell. When I was a kid, this was a rare attitude among blacks.

411 posted on 12/11/2009 10:28:03 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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