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To: B-Chan
I wonder if you could address the point under contention: namely, that some sort of "tribal instinct" lies at the root of the problems blacks have in every part of the world.

People like me put the lie to the "tribal instinct" theory. If you want to test that theory, go live in the black community for a couple of years and really get to know people. You'll find out what a complete, and destructive lie that is.

I won't deny that black communities (and nations) everywhere in the world are basically dysfunctional. As far as I can determine, this degraded state of being among blacks has been intentionally caused by malevolent forces. Mostly of the leftist variety.

Blacks who aren't born into the confines of these decrepit communities are totally unlike those they share skin color with. They're more mainstream, and most consider themselves as Americans first, with their race only being of secondary importance.

There isn't a "failure gene", or a "tribal instinct" at work here. What there is, is aculturation and indoctrination from a young age, that sets in place a certain mindset.

This is precisely why I refused to allow my own children to be born in, or to be raised in a monolithic black community. There's a contagion of aberration there that I'm unwilling to allow them to be exposed to.

When I was a youngster, I knew a few white families that never left with the rest of the "white flight". I went to school with some of those kids, and they were alculturated nearly identically to the rest of the kids in the neighborhood. Even their speaking voices were identical to the rest of the community. They knew they were "different", but the black community was all they knew. They fit in pretty well, in that day and age. The boys of one family (the Hubers) were all successively stars on our high school football team.

340 posted on 12/09/2009 9:29:58 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

But I did grow up in “the black community”: a junior enlisted housing area of Fort Bragg, North Carolina, during the mid-1970s. We were, for most of the time we lived there, the only white people in the neighborhood. And believe me that there was plenty of “tribal instinct” among our black neighbors. We discovered very quickly and in no uncertain terms that we were not “of the tribe”.

My question is based upon the fact that, generally speaking, the quality of life in any given locality varies inversely with the percentage its residents whom are of non-Arab African or African-diaspora origin. This inverse relationship exists at all levels of government, from communities to continents, and exists independent of economic circumstances: compare Vermont to Mississippi, Minnesota to Maryland, Detroit to Omaha, Jamaica to Singapore, South Africa under apartheid to South Africa today. Where whites or Asians are in the majority, or where members of these groups control the government, the society is more-or-less safe, civic, and orderly. Where there are large black populations, or where blacks are in charge of civil government, there is crime, tribalism, chaos. There must be some reason for this.

I think there is, and I think the reason is “tribal instinct” — or, to use a more accurate phrase, culture. I think black culture is broken — not just here in the States, but in Africa. I think the only way things are going to improve for black people around the world is for them to essentially stop “being black” — stop identifying themselves with black culture, values, and identity — and adopt “white” (i.e. European-American, Judeo-Christian) culture, values, and identity.

I’m sorry if this offends you, but I have to be honest: I don’t think the racial situation in the U.S. is salvageable. I don’t think we can all “just get along”. I think that the cultural differences are just too great overall. I think it’s going to come down to the re-segregation of society, by a voluntary process if we’re lucky. Otherwise, it’s a Camp of the Saints scenario — and God help us all if it ever comes to that.


347 posted on 12/09/2009 10:09:33 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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