[Huck]

Let's keep things on track, before you start trying to knock me as a libertarian or a college student. I said the United States of America existed before the Constitution. You incorrectly disagreed, and cited the Declaration of Independence, apparantly unaware that the Confederacy under the Articles was styled The United States of America.

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Just so we've got our bearings. It might make sense to get your facts straight before you start mocking anybody.

The United States would not and could not have made it without the Constitution.

No way to prove that, so it's a worthless statement.

[Jacquerie]

No way to prove that, so it's a worthless statement.

Huh? After only six years, the US under the Articles were dissolving before the eyes of the world. That is why the states convened the 1787 convention. For example, when MA, RI and NH imposed restraints on British trade in the hope of exacting concessions from Parliament, Connecticut not only opened her ports to unrestricted trade with England, but went so far as to lay duties on imports from MA!