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EPA Finding Gives It Effective Control of the Economy
The Corner on National Review Online ^ | 12/07/09 | Iain Murray

Posted on 12/07/2009 10:14:03 AM PST by TonyInOhio

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To: CottShop
Excellent post.

As I succinctly put it in my post #12, this is -- flat out -- a COUP!

The socialist agenda, through Obama and an EPA fiat, has successfully taken over our economy.

Any tinhorn Latin American dictator would have to envy this bloodless takeover of America.

I can't remember ever being this angry!

21 posted on 12/07/2009 10:40:47 AM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: TonyInOhio
Taken to the extent mandated under the Clean Air Act, the EPA would probably have to order the shut-down of most industrial suppliers and users of conventional energy.

I hope that's exactly what they do because it's the only way we'll get most of the drones to snap out of it. The hardcore ones will hold a party, no doubt, but the rest will wake up to see how much damage is being done. It's absurd that it would take something like that, but obviously they aren't seeing it yet so stronger measures are called for.

22 posted on 12/07/2009 10:41:27 AM PST by Dahoser (The missus and I joined the NRA. Who says Obama can't inspire conservatives?)
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To: TonyInOhio

U.S. Government to all citizens, “Hold your breath”.


23 posted on 12/07/2009 10:44:39 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: JPG

‘Critics, such as the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, say the endangerment declaration could spark a cascade of litigation and regulation that could harm the economy.’
And a big time payoff for a bunch of dirty socialist trial lawyers.


24 posted on 12/07/2009 10:44:54 AM PST by anglian
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To: TonyInOhio

EPA bureaucrats are expanding their power under the guise of saving the planet. Also See Malkins links.http://michellemalkin.com/2009/12/07/the-epas-war-on-carbon/


25 posted on 12/07/2009 10:46:45 AM PST by anglian
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To: TonyInOhio

Unfortunately this is necessary for landslides in ‘10 and ‘12, should the GOP actually get serious about being the opposition party. The hardcore lefties/0bamabots will never accept reality b/c to to so would be to admit their own failures and lies. But a solid 55% majority will reject this if given the chance.


26 posted on 12/07/2009 10:46:51 AM PST by Lou Budvis (Almost time to warm-up the SUV for the drive to Galt's Gulch.)
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To: Dahoser
I'm afraid this COUP may have legs. Consider this:

The chief industrial and energy businesses in America -- the ones hit hardest by the new EPA ruling -- will now lobby for passing of the Cap-and-Trade bill. Why? Because if it now passes, they won't be the ONLY industries penalized by the EPA ruling. All other industries and businesses will be penalized too, which in effect levels out the playing field.

Obama and the EPA know this. This ruling is, basically, EXTORTION!!!!

Watch: the energy industry will now have a financial reason to support Cap-and-Trade.

27 posted on 12/07/2009 10:48:03 AM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Flycatcher

[[I can’t remember ever being this angry! ]]

Me either- I ran a website for several years refuting ‘man-caused’ global warming, and I finally gave up in complete frustration knowing that we were never going to win the war against the climate criminals- I had a small spark of hope when climategate broke, thinking that finally, the world could not ignore the FACT that man is NOT to blame for cyclical wamring trends, and that the climate criminals were LYING all along- but my hopes were dashed to pieces once again when I realized right off the bat that these criminals were simply going to change the wording from ‘man-caused global warming’ to ‘man-caused pollution’ and that they were STILL going to enforce laws taxes and fines to ‘fix’ the ‘problem’- thus continuing hteir LIES and FRAUD unabated and unfettered.

Angry and frustrated- knowing there is nothign we are goign to be able to do to stop these criminals


28 posted on 12/07/2009 10:50:30 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: TonyInOhio

The left must do something about global warming NOW, so that as the proof starts coming out they will claim their efforts worked to stop the warming of the planet.


29 posted on 12/07/2009 10:52:40 AM PST by stockpirate (if the American people decide it's time for a revolution, we'll fight with you. Rhodes Oathkprs)
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To: anglian

TODAY: Administrator Jackson to Make Significant Climate Announcement

Release date: 12/07/2009

Contact Information: EPA Press Office, press@epa.gov, (202) 564-6794

WASHINGTON – U.S. Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Lisa P. Jackson will make a significant climate announcement at a press briefing TODAY, December 7. The media briefing will be held at U.S. EPA Headquarters at 1200 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W., Washington, D.C.

WHO: EPA Administrator Lisa P. Jackson

WHAT: Media Briefing on significant EPA climate announcement

WHEN: Monday, December 7, 1:15 p.m.

WHERE: U.S. EPA Headquarters
Ariel Rios South Building
1200 Pennsylvania Ave, N.W.
Washington, D.C.

For reporters outside of the Washington D.C. area, a conference call in number will be available. Please RSVP to press@epa.gov for the call in number.

The media briefing will be streamed live via the EPA homepage: http://www.epa.gov


30 posted on 12/07/2009 10:53:48 AM PST by anglian
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To: Dahoser

[[I hope that’s exactly what they do because it’s the only way we’ll get most of the drones to snap out of it.]]

They aren’t goign to shut down these businesses- they are simply goign to impose heavy fiens and taxes and ‘carbon credits’, and these businesses will simply go right along with it without resisting liek they have been for a long time now- because they know they are powerless to stop the government from ruining their business- Big business to the government is ghe ‘root of all evil’ and our government will make htem pay for their suppsoed ‘environmental sins’

as well financial institutions are ALL onboard with htis collossal criminal fraud because they are the oens that are goign to be handling al lthe money extorted from businesses in the form of hte carbon credits- these financial institutions stand to make massive massive profits from this criminal fraud, and there is NO WAY the government and the financial institutions are EVER goign to let this fraud die the death it deserves to die.


31 posted on 12/07/2009 10:55:14 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: steelyourfaith

Invent a ‘’problem’’ that isn’t really a problem and cannot be ‘’solved’’, but the RATS can throw $$$ at it forever.


32 posted on 12/07/2009 11:02:22 AM PST by Waco (Stay as bootiful as ya are Karvile.)
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To: CottShop
We’re done- We’re finished-

Be careful. When I posted similar comments on FR, I was criticized.

(me)America is done, finished, so over.
(response)If you really believe that, then go quietly from this place, and never return to utter those defeatist words here again.
33 posted on 12/07/2009 11:12:13 AM PST by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: CottShop; Flycatcher

You two are right. This is going to be the ceiling that they work down from rather the shock treatment I want it to be. I should know better.


34 posted on 12/07/2009 11:16:42 AM PST by Dahoser (The missus and I joined the NRA. Who says Obama can't inspire conservatives?)
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To: CottShop

They’re not invincible. It’s time for another Revolution.


35 posted on 12/07/2009 11:22:02 AM PST by coydog (Time to feed the pigs!)
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To: Achilles Heel

WHAT IS GOING ON?

Welcome to the ‘Command’ economy!


36 posted on 12/07/2009 11:22:09 AM PST by griswold3 (You think health care is expensive now? Just wait till it's FREE!)
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To: CottShop
 
 
Don't forget to feed the political angle in to the equation - those that fall in line with "the party" will get breaks, perhaps even some perks for those showing some especial ideological fervor, while those who are not quite with the program should expect a clobbering.
 
 

37 posted on 12/07/2009 11:33:06 AM PST by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: CottShop
Angry and frustrated- knowing there is nothign we are goign to be able to do to stop these criminals

Nothing? You can think of "nothing we can do to stop these criminals"?

Review American history and re-think what you're saying. There are solutions.

38 posted on 12/07/2009 11:34:16 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: CottShop

(I can’t remember ever being this angry)...me too.

This Gov. is moving so fast that it’s becoming difficult keeping up. I’ve never made so many phone calls, e-mails etc. to oppose this onslaught. Of course thinning out the opposition and keeping us on the run is a war tactic.

Don’t know if I’m madder at those who are moving this agenda to destroy our country or those who are in position to do something about it.

But war is war and I’m in it for the longhaul.....


39 posted on 12/07/2009 11:39:47 AM PST by caww
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To: TonyInOhio

The United States government just made breathing illegal...

THINK ABOUT THAT.


40 posted on 12/07/2009 11:48:57 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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