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NO MUSLIMS FOUNDED AMERICA
email | November 14, 2009 | Lee S. Gliddon, Jr

Posted on 12/07/2009 10:00:52 AM PST by dvan

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To: LonePalm

“I still do not understand how a person can believe in Islam and still be a loyal American citizen.” You are correct, they cannot be a loyal American citizen! And I need to only offer one example: OBAMA. He is only loyal to the moon god allah, and the total destruction of America.


41 posted on 12/07/2009 3:06:49 PM PST by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: hellbender; cripplecreek
Of approximately 4 million people in the colonies at the time of the RevWar (500,000 slaves included) there were about 3,300 Jews with 125 serving in the Continental Army. This was the highest percentage of any group of Patriots under arms.

Source: Angel in the Whirlwind: The Triumph of the American Revolution by Benson Bobrick

42 posted on 12/07/2009 3:12:24 PM PST by Pharmboy (The Stone Age did not end because they ran out of stones...)
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To: antiRepublicrat

Thanks.


43 posted on 12/07/2009 3:29:43 PM PST by cvq3842 (A fool and his liberty are soon parted.)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

Having liberated themselves from the Moors over a period of centuries, I think the Spanish evicted them or forced them to convert to Catholicism. (Now the Muslims are on their way to retaking Iberia.) Everywhere they went, the Spanish were accompanied by zealous Catholic priests, who founded missions. There is no sign of any Muslim influence in the U.S. during Spanish rule.


44 posted on 12/07/2009 4:48:04 PM PST by hellbender
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To: Southron Patriot

Judah Benjamin was a U.S. Senator, declined nomination for the Supreme Court (twice), then became Atty. Gen., then Sec. of War, then Sec. of State for the Confederate States.


45 posted on 12/07/2009 4:53:41 PM PST by hellbender
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To: himno hero
I think by the time that Africans started to be brought to what is now the US, the Portuguese were taking slaves mostly to Brazil.

The people carrying human beings across the Atlantic to be sold as slaves in the Americas probably didn't care what religious beliefs their captives had, whether animistic, Islamic, or Christian. I don't think there were many Muslims brought to what is now the US, but I think there is evidence for a least a few. In any case that doesn't mean that "Muslims built America"--a few of them may have added slightly to the wealth of a few plantation owners, who probably spent it on imports from England.

There was a notable slave uprising in South Carolina about 1739 or so. I read an article once which argued that the slaves involved were Christians from the Catholic kingdom of Kongo (near the mouth of the Congo River), who may have known that the Spanish in Florida were Catholic and were trying to escape to Florida. The rulers of Kongo had been converted by the Portuguese.

46 posted on 12/07/2009 5:02:19 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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Did Muslims fight for this country’s freedom from England ?

Private Nathan Badeen
18th Continental Regiment
Revolutionary War

Not much is known about the life of Nathan (Nahthan) Badeen, who was from what is today the Horan Region of Syria. The Badeen family, which resided in that area during the mid eighteenth century, were primarily farmers and merchants. It is believed that Nathan may have been shanghaied by French merchant men while he was trading with them in the area near what is today the city of Latakia. Eventually he was taken to Canada where he was either put off the ship or escaped. It is believed that he then traveled south into the American Colonies arriving in this country at the beginning of the American Revolutionary War. Records indicate that he voluntarily enlisted in the Continental Army's' 18th Regiment on January 1st, 1776 which was being organized as a new unit at Cambridge Massachusetts. Later, this Regiment played a vital role in the battle to liberate Boston from the British. Upon enlisting, Private Badeen listed as his place of birth "Lavan" which was the old Turkish name for what is today modern Syria, which was controlled by the Turks in those days. Private Badeen, went on to fight for his new country as a member of this new Regiment until on or about May 26, 1776, it was reported by his Commanding Officer, Captain Abraham Tyler, that he died in the service of his country while posted at Fort George near Boston. The exact circumstances of his death, as is his final resting place are unknown.

Badeen may not have been a Muslim -- there were plenty of Christians in Syria and Lebanon, and Jews as well -- but it's surprising to see an Arab fighting for American freedom, even before independence was declared.

To say that Muslims were a part of the story in the early days, doesn't mean that they were Founders or Framers. Probably most of them were slaves. The best known was Abdulrahman Ibrahim Ibn Sori, an African prince who petitioned the government for his release from slavery and received it. When he spoke to anti-slavery groups before returning home he even became an issue in Andrew Jackson's presidential campaign against John Quincy Adams.

47 posted on 12/07/2009 5:17:34 PM PST by x
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The story of Nathan Badeen is an interesting one--he could be Syrian or Lebanese, but quite possibly Christian or Jewish.

There are some mysterious people in parts of the south (mainly NE Tennessee and nearby parts of VA and KY) sometimes called melungeons who seem to be of mixed ancestry. I think there are indications that could include a bit of eastern Mediterranean ancestry--perhaps people left in North America by the Spanish who had been captured at sea in the Mediterranean? So there is a slight chance of partial Muslim ancestry, but by the time they show up in records they would have been several generations removed from any practicing Muslim.

The main contribution of Muslims to America is inspiring part of the first line of the Marine Hymn.

48 posted on 12/07/2009 6:32:35 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

See - its arguments like mine and yours that disprove that muslims were here at the beginning of time as slaves. The bulk of the slaves that went to america were from the pepper coast/ grain coast.

All in all where are these muslim slaves? Basically non existant excepting, now everyone is rewriting history.

Revisionists in the whitehouse....


49 posted on 12/07/2009 7:36:23 PM PST by himno hero
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