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Boise State, TCU Deserve Better
SI.com ^ | 7 Dec 2009 | Cory McCartney

Posted on 12/07/2009 9:10:25 AM PST by The Pack Knight

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To: cweese
Posting an undefeated season after whipping the likes of Slippery Rock, SMU, or Idaho isn't really a claim to much. Certainly not enough to justify an invitation to the National Championship game.

Let 'em play and find out. Like Alabama or Oklahoma did.

81 posted on 12/07/2009 10:11:57 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
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To: The Pack Knight

If I’ve read this article correctly, the author claims both TCU and Boise State were ripped off yet the only proposal he makes for resolving that issue would be to the benefit of TCU (having them play Cincy or Florida instead of Boise). So in his scenario the winner of the Texas/Alabama game and TCU if it beat Cincy/Florida could be co-champions. Then no matter what team Boise beat, they still couldn’t finish on top. So his whining is a bit disingenuous.


82 posted on 12/07/2009 10:12:39 AM PST by drjimmy
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To: cweese
Apart from Boise St. beating Oregon in the first game of the season, they both played sissy schools for most of the season.

And that's because other BCS schools are too sissy to play Boise State.
83 posted on 12/07/2009 10:12:44 AM PST by GLDNGUN
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To: Alberta's Child

So have a 16-team playoff. Or whatever size is required to at least give a slot to every undefeated Divison I team in existence.


84 posted on 12/07/2009 10:13:30 AM PST by Sloth (Pray for Obama: Psalm 109:8)
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To: Alberta's Child

Speaking of basketball, here’s another one of my great ideas.

Who cares about the NIT, right? I mean all it proves is that the winner was the best team that didn’t make the tournament.

But what if the NCAA Regional runner-ups dropped into the final eight of the NIT? Now the winner can claim to be the best team that didn’t make the Final Four.


85 posted on 12/07/2009 10:14:13 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: FreedomProtector

I’ve seen TCU play a couple of times this season, and i think they are capable of beating any team in the country.

Once again the BCS comes up one game short- the winner of the Fiesta should play the winner of Bama-Texas for all the marbles.


86 posted on 12/07/2009 10:14:35 AM PST by Canedawg (Bring lawyers, guns and money.)
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To: dfwgator

They were. The NCAA really screwed them with the death penalty back in the 80’s. Before that, they were awesome with the likes of Eric Dickerson, Craig James, etc..


87 posted on 12/07/2009 10:15:41 AM PST by cweese (Hook 'em Horns!!!)
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To: Alberta's Child
Has any fan of college football or basketball even heard of Boston University, the University of Maine, Lake Superior State, the University of New Hampshire, Bemidji State, St. Cloud State, North Dakota, the University of Alaska, etc.?

Don't forget Colorado College & University of Denver. Went to one of their games over the weekend. As far as a spectator sport, and this is high quality hockey, it far surpasses football ... and I'm speaking as a long time NFL season ticket holder. Football, in contrast to hockey, with all the various time outs, including TV advertising time outs ... interrupts the flow of the game. Not so hockey which is fast paced, & pretty much non stop action.

88 posted on 12/07/2009 10:17:48 AM PST by BluH2o
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To: FReepaholic
No doubt SEC football is tough, but give TCU the chance.

Next year we'll get into the scenario when the BCS school won't put TCU on their schedule to even give them an opportunity. At least Bowden would play MIA, FL, when both were powerhouse schools out of his conference.

89 posted on 12/07/2009 10:18:28 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: GLDNGUN

Boise sets their own schedule. Maybe if they didn’t schedule creampuffs in order to post an undefeated record I’d not laugh at your comment.


90 posted on 12/07/2009 10:18:39 AM PST by cweese (Hook 'em Horns!!!)
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To: Alberta's Child
Utah beat Alabama easier than Florida did last year, and I think TCU is similarly better than Texas.

But we'll never know cause the BCS sucks. It really does, it's a vote for pete's sake.

91 posted on 12/07/2009 10:18:49 AM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Alberta's Child
Why don't teams like Boise State and TCU join major conferences, if they are serious about a long-term commitment to building and maintaining strong football teams?

Not a dumb question, but the fact is that TCU tried to get into a major conference. Ann Richards used her clout as governor to get Baylor into the Big 12 and oust TCU. Also, the major conferences try to maintain a balance of quality teams and doormats. The doormats don't mind, cause they get to split the Bowl money. The big guys like it, cause it gives them a break on the schedule.

When the old SWC broke up, Arkansas went to the SEC (still think that was a bad move on their part,) Texas, A&M, Tech, and Baylor went to the Big 8, creating the Big 12, and TCU, Houston, SMU and Rice started looking for other affiliations. Houston and TCU couldn't draw a crowd, SMU was coming off the death penalty for their football program, and Rice was never a football factory. So, they got what they could. TCU does not like being in the WAC, not only because of the lower status, but because they have to travel much further to play conference games than they would if they were in the Big 12 South. I can't speak to Boise State.

92 posted on 12/07/2009 10:20:10 AM PST by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: Sloth
That's a better approach, but the field would have to be large enough to include not only all undefeated teams, but all Division I conference champions.

At 16 teams you'd be looking at a four-week postseason for NCAA football. I think this is one thing that will always cause the NCAA to shy away from a playoff field that large.

93 posted on 12/07/2009 10:20:10 AM PST by Alberta's Child (God is great, beer is good . . . and people are crazy.)
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To: Canedawg
Once again the BCS comes up one game short- the winner of the Fiesta should play the winner of Bama-Texas for all the marbles.

Nope. You left out the other undefeated team, Cincinnati, which is ranked higher than TCU and Boise in the BCS rankings. Why would you not give them the same chance to play for the national championship?
94 posted on 12/07/2009 10:20:31 AM PST by drjimmy
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To: dfwgator

Man, you’re full of intriguing ideas today. LOL!


95 posted on 12/07/2009 10:21:34 AM PST by Alberta's Child (God is great, beer is good . . . and people are crazy.)
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To: stainlessbanner
At least Bowden would play MIA, FL, when both were powerhouse schools out of his conference.

FSU and Miami for most of Bowden's tenure were not even in a conference, and towards the end were in the same conference.

It's a little different than UF's situation. The SEC added a conference game, so something had to give....and it had to be Miami.

96 posted on 12/07/2009 10:22:42 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: drjimmy

I wonder if UF got Cincinnati solely on the fact that UC is Urban Meyer’s Alma Mater?


97 posted on 12/07/2009 10:23:53 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: BluH2o
I agree with you 100%.

I gradually lost a lot of interest in football once I became a hockey fan.

Anyone who has never seen a hockey fan in person should go see one. It is far better in person than on television, and it really puts all other major U.S. sports to shame.

I once read somewhere that the typical NFL game has 11-14 minutes of live action in a 3-3.5 hour television window. That's an 'effing disgrace. LOL.

98 posted on 12/07/2009 10:24:02 AM PST by Alberta's Child (God is great, beer is good . . . and people are crazy.)
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To: cweese

Utah beat Alabama easier than Florida did last year...TCU just crushed Utah this year....


99 posted on 12/07/2009 10:24:44 AM PST by FreedomProtector
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To: drjimmy

You’re right about Cincy, although they barely squeaked by Pitt, just as UT barely squeaked by Nebraska.

A win’s a win of course, though neither of those teams appeared to be championship caliber teams in those games.


100 posted on 12/07/2009 10:24:50 AM PST by Canedawg (Bring lawyers, guns and money.)
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