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Rosenberg: There's Just A 1-In-35 Chance Friday's Employment Number Was Right
The Business Insider ^ | 12/7/09 | Joe Weisenthal

Posted on 12/07/2009 7:58:17 AM PST by FromLori

It's getting hard to keep track of all the different ways people are attacking Friday's employment number.

You've got TrimTabs which keeps banging the drum about the birth-death model.

You've got folks talking about how it was all in temp work, or the public.

Then there are those who point out all of the people who have left the workforce.

David Rosenberg chimes in with another: that it just can't be right, because it doesn't jibe with the contraction in the services sector

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A 1-IN-35 EVENT

It’s remarkable nobody talks about this. The big surprise in the payroll data was the service sector component; it rose 58k. But we know from the ADP report that service sector employment fell 81k, which was fractionally worse than the 79k decline in October. Such a discrepancy has occurred less than 3% of the time in the past, and each time, the following month after the big gap, there was a convergence ... with headline nonfarm payrolls swinging 100k lower on average, which would imply a 111k decline when December’s figure comes out. Also take note that the +58k print in the service sector payroll was completely at odds with the 41.6 reading in the ISM non-manufacturing employment index in

So as we wonder how the headline number could only be -11k on Friday, there were some very lumpy increases in some very non-cyclical segments of the economy: • Administration/waste management +87k • Health/education +40k • Government +7k

The rest of the economy shed 145 jobs and the declines were spread across nearly 60% of the industrial base from retail, to transports, to manufacturing, to construction. For some reason, we didn’t see this dichotomy mentioned anywhere in the weekend press.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ecconomy; jobs

1 posted on 12/07/2009 7:58:18 AM PST by FromLori
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To: FromLori

I thought the number sounded phoney. Expect an “adjustment” that will go relatively unpublicized.


2 posted on 12/07/2009 7:59:44 AM PST by clintonh8r (Oath Keeper and Manhattan Declaration signer)
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To: FromLori

After the September quarter was adjusted so many times, I have NO FAITH that our government is providing numbers anywhere NEAR actual. They are simply pulling numbers out of the air to keep us in the dark - before we are ALL in the dark quite literally.


3 posted on 12/07/2009 8:03:40 AM PST by RebelTXRose
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To: FromLori

“Administration/waste management +87k”

I love it. Admin and garbage are included together !


4 posted on 12/07/2009 8:05:42 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: FromLori

Ofcourse it was a lie.


5 posted on 12/07/2009 8:06:36 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: RebelTXRose

They are simply pulling numbers out of the air to keep us in the dark...

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And the lapdog media continue to use the words “unexpectedly” and/or “surprisingly” in every “newscast.”


6 posted on 12/07/2009 8:15:15 AM PST by maica (Freedom consists not in doing what we like,but in having the right to do what we ought. John Paul II)
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To: FromLori

The administration has gone from “creating” jobs to manufacturing them.


7 posted on 12/07/2009 8:19:27 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: clintonh8r

Of course it is phony. There were over 2 million new unemployment benefit applications last month alone. Yes, a lot of people found new jobs, but there is NO WAY that more jobs were created than lost last month.

Hell, even the people putting out the number ADMITTED that 11,000 more jobs were lost than created yet they still revised the number DOWN!


8 posted on 12/07/2009 8:21:54 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The Second Amendment. Don't MAKE me use it.)
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To: FromLori

Just proves the old axiom true: “Figures don’t lie, but Liars figure”.


9 posted on 12/07/2009 10:37:10 AM PST by SDShack (0zer0care = Socialized Soylent Green Healthcare)
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