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This should shake up the GOP leadership to the core.
1 posted on 12/07/2009 5:44:38 AM PST by TomGuy
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“The Tea Party candidate picks up 23%, and Republicans finish third at 18%. Another 22% are undecided.”

Best case scenario, the two sides work out their differences and together, whoop the Dems’ collective ass.


53 posted on 12/07/2009 6:37:32 AM PST by Grunthor (There is no such thing as unconditional love.)
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Interesting. Those numbers mean that the Tea Parties are drawing a lot of Indies and Democrats, something the moderate R’s have never really figured out how to do. It’s a hard coalition to keep together because the moderate R’s have a certain cultural contempt for their lessers in the conservative wing of the party.


61 posted on 12/07/2009 6:44:51 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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Rino ping...


63 posted on 12/07/2009 6:45:04 AM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Vote conservative....Please pray for our Troops, our Vets, our Country, Families and Friends)
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Time to stand for something rather than falling for everything.

Wake up, GOP.


67 posted on 12/07/2009 6:46:23 AM PST by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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They DESERVE every bit of this. When anyone in either party decides to follow the original meaning of Article 1. Section 8 of the US Constitution, then I'll reconsider them. Until then, the games they play with the General Welfare, Commerce and Necessary & Proper Clauses will continue to suffer the wrath of those of us who truly do believe in Jefferson's vision of a LIMITED GOVERNMENT acting within the bounds of the Enumerated Powers.
71 posted on 12/07/2009 6:48:02 AM PST by mek1959
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“But, but, but!!! A third party means an AUTOMATIC win for the democrats!!!”

< scoffs >

I’m all for a Tea Party/Constitution Party/Conservative Party/Take Back America Party!!! BRING IT ON!!! I’ve had enough of RINOs and liberals stealing from my children and their children! I WANT A CONSTITUTIONAL AMERICA BACK.


74 posted on 12/07/2009 6:49:47 AM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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Except the Tea Party isn’t really a party but a collection of frustrated people. The only principles I think they could agree on at this pint is that they favor “small” government and revere the founders. Good principles, no doubt but the devil hides in the details about how to get there. So at this point I’d say the Tea Party is just more “hope and change” hype. Beyond that, I’m not sure there is any position on the social issues that Tea Party members would agree on. And then there’s the issue of national security. Do tea party members agree on a strong national defense or a more libertarian “it’s not my job” national defense? Lots of issues beyond just “small” Gov and RINO killing which would quickly put the tea party in the same hall of fame as the Ross Perot’s (or was it Buchannan’s or Nadar’s) deformed party?


75 posted on 12/07/2009 6:50:18 AM PST by rhombus
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“For this survey, the respondents were asked to assume that the Tea Party movement organized as a new political party.”

OK- for a minute I thought checking FR every third day wasn’t enough - that someone formed a party while I was asleep.

Interesting that so many respondents latched right onto this concept and it somewhat answers the Dem machine rallying cry that the repub party is going extinct.


85 posted on 12/07/2009 6:58:07 AM PST by BonRad (As Rome goes so goes the world)
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Side question: What is the compelling Tea Party message for these blood-sucker Americans in the thread below? "Join us, we will make you get a job and pay your fair share?"

I think our choice is bad or worse. Hold off as much as we can as long as we can for the next generation while we undo the 40 years of leftist education, or sit home "results be damned" as Eak3 says, and let the looter-train snowball.

This poll shows that a plurality of Americans like what the left is feeding them!!!

Nearly One Third of All Tax Filers Paid No Federal Income Taxes in 2007

About 46.6 Million Filers Were "Nonpayers" Due to Exemptions, Deductions, Credits

Washington, DC, December 4, 2009 -- Nearly one-third of the 143 million federal income tax returns filed in 2007 resulted in no tax payment, according to a Tax Foundation analysis of IRS data. That means the tax filers got back every dollar that had been withheld from their paychecks, and often more. Roughly 46.6 million tax returns, or 32.6 percent, are filed by such "nonpayers," people whose exemptions, deductions and credits wiped out any federal income tax due.

"In about half the cases, additional money was 'refunded' to these tax filers -- meaning they received a check from the government -- similar to welfare spending programs,"

97 posted on 12/07/2009 7:03:20 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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Nope, they are to stupid or apathetic to give an damn.


133 posted on 12/07/2009 7:43:00 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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My concern is that there is a core group of people who are committed to being “independants” or “third-partiers” regardless of whether the GOP adopts the Tea Party “platform” or not. These people will still not vote GOP just because they are contrarian by nature.


149 posted on 12/07/2009 7:59:17 AM PST by dinoparty
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When did “The Tea Party” officially become a U.S. political party? I missed that announcement.


156 posted on 12/07/2009 8:07:33 AM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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Bottom line is that means Obama and the fascists win. This isn’t something to celebrate unless we love Perot.


169 posted on 12/07/2009 8:19:47 AM PST by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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ping


171 posted on 12/07/2009 8:20:37 AM PST by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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The lesson for Republicans is obvious. Embody Tea Party issues or go the way of the Whigs.


172 posted on 12/07/2009 8:21:05 AM PST by popdonnelly (Yes, we disagree - no, we won't shut up - no, we won't quit.)
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I actually took part in this poll. It was all about the Tea Party movement and would I vote 3rd party.


186 posted on 12/07/2009 8:31:50 AM PST by katykelly
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The rules of the election process—written by Republicans and Democrats--provide substantial advantages for the two established major parties. The more conventional route in the United States is for a potential third-party force to overtake one of the existing parties.

That's why the Conservatives are going to take back the Republican party. Or at least they better or we're cooked.

198 posted on 12/07/2009 8:46:08 AM PST by Reagan is King (Every immigrant who comes here should be required within five years to learn English or leave.)
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I see Democrats winning where we would except for splitting our base.


201 posted on 12/07/2009 8:50:52 AM PST by Snerdley (You can put a Suit on a Community Organizer, but it's still an EMPTY SUIT!)
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Their theory is there is no where for conservatives to go.


206 posted on 12/07/2009 8:53:36 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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This is great. The next step is obviously for someone to organize a Tea Party slate of candidates so that Democrats can sweep elections for the next hundred years. But losing elections is actually a good thing for the conservative movement, since defeat builds character. I see a lot of character-building in the years ahead.


226 posted on 12/07/2009 10:19:40 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always)
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