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Smart Wheelie bins to charge for waste
London Evening Standard ^ | 6.12.09 | Ed Harris

Posted on 12/06/2009 11:09:07 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing

Wheelie bins with microchips which measure how much rubbish they contain could be introduced to make householders cut down on their waste.

Alternatively, under plans outlined by council leaders today, people could be charged according to the size of their bin or of their rubbish bags which they would buy from the local authority.

The Local Government Association denied the plans would be a stealth tax to raise extra cash for councils.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: britain; england; environmentalism; garbagesensors; globalwarming; sensors; smartgarbage; uk
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It's amazing the britons don't have much liberty left.
1 posted on 12/06/2009 11:09:08 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

folks will just start to not use the bins.

duh


2 posted on 12/06/2009 11:10:41 AM PST by Principled (Get the capital back! NRST!)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I wonder what the sides of the roadways are going to look like if this goes into effect? I can envision trash all over the place to avoid the tax.


3 posted on 12/06/2009 11:11:50 AM PST by raybbr (If you try to kiss your son on the head while he's running you WILL get a fat lip.)
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News story from 2011. An unprecedented spike in illegal dumping has occured in the country side.


4 posted on 12/06/2009 11:11:59 AM PST by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ...In the US the number is 54%)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

They want people to live as serf/peasants/slaves. Consume nothing, produce no waste, die early. It’s amazing people can’t see where this is headed.


5 posted on 12/06/2009 11:13:08 AM PST by Clock King (There's no way to fix D.C.)
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To: FrankFisher

bttt


6 posted on 12/06/2009 11:13:39 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing ( How about someone nominate Chris Matthews as the Restless Leg Czar?)
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To: Principled; raybbr; dsrtsage

LOL at you guys. I was thinking something similar but...... especially trash on the roadways....... LOL

Will government never learn?


7 posted on 12/06/2009 11:16:22 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing ( How about someone nominate Chris Matthews as the Restless Leg Czar?)
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To: Principled

Or put it in someone else’s bin.


8 posted on 12/06/2009 11:19:20 AM PST by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their government funding!)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
It's amazing the britons don't have much liberty left.

Coming soon to a state near you.

9 posted on 12/06/2009 11:19:27 AM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

How will this deal with public trash receptacles in front of stores and so on. Will they just disappear? Will John Law arrest the store owners if they remove them? If they stay, will homeowners stuff a lot more of what would have been household trash into them?


10 posted on 12/06/2009 11:30:00 AM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Shrug. Why do the people of the UK keep voting for government that does this to them?


11 posted on 12/06/2009 11:32:47 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Let's Roll

That way the tax is still paid - just not by the bin-filler.

oy


12 posted on 12/06/2009 11:34:35 AM PST by Principled (Get the capital back! NRST!)
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To: Principled

You can get anything you want at Alice’s restaurant.

We got up there, we found all the garbage in there, and we decided it’d be a friendly gesture for us to take the garbage down to the city dump. So
we took the half a ton of garbage, put it in the back of a red VW microbus, took shovels and rakes and implements of destruction and headed on toward the city dump.

Well we got there and there was a big sign and a chain across across the dump saying, “Closed on Thanksgiving.” And we had never heard of a dump closed on Thanksgiving before, and with tears in our eyes we drove off
into the sunset looking for another place to put the garbage.

We didn’t find one. Until we came to a side road, and off the side of the side road there was another fifteen foot cliff and at the bottom of the cliff there was another pile of garbage. And we decided that one big pile is better than two little piles, and rather than bring that one up we
decided to throw our’s down.


13 posted on 12/06/2009 11:36:59 AM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution - 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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...folks will just start to not use the bins...

They'll fine you for that. Check this out, it's already happening over there:

Bike Shop Owner Fined For Not Producing Rubbish

14 posted on 12/06/2009 11:37:32 AM PST by FReepaholic (Give me ambiguity or give me something else!)
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You can get anything you want at Alice’s restaurant.

Excepting Alice.

15 posted on 12/06/2009 11:41:12 AM PST by Focault's Pendulum (This country elected an empty suit, an absolute economic illiterate!!!)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

This may not be as bad as you would think. In my city this type of program has been enacted for some commercial operations. A good friend of mine who owns a restaurant (which obviously generated a good deal of trash - not his cooking, just the nature of the business) and we have discussed the implications of the change. Their garbage costs have actually gone down - no longer renting a dumpster that never gets full, they are charged only for the volume of garbage generated. Garbage is bagged and closed with a prepaid sticker which is picked up daily. No dumpster blocking the alley and attracting vermin or dumpster-divers, lower cost, and better service. Look before you leap, but don’t automatically assume change is negative. I would also point out that the nature of garbage collection is hardly a indicator of “liberty”. A tad bit extreme, don’t you think?


16 posted on 12/06/2009 11:43:01 AM PST by stormer
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To: pnh102

This is a big part(Not all) of the reason why:

Have you seen this reported anywhere? Is it in the american media? Is it in most of britain’s media?

How will people fight against something they don’t even know it’s happening?

Totalitarianism is creeping up their necks and nobody is informing them of it as it happens. But one day they just wake up and “hey, when did this happen?”

This is why the media is listed in the constitution. They are supposed to be watchdogs. SUPPOSED to be anyways. *SIGH* I can’t express it enough how bad I feel for our british friends over there and what they have to go through.

They are essentially fighting an invisible enemy. Not even fighting......... they are being dominated by an invisible enemy and nobody in their press stands up and says enough.


17 posted on 12/06/2009 11:44:39 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing ( How about someone nominate Chris Matthews as the Restless Leg Czar?)
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This is like the Post Office selling different stamps for different destinations. Ben Franklin solved the problem and saved money by selling a single stamp.
18 posted on 12/06/2009 11:48:57 AM PST by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar. ---- "OBAMA: THE GREAT MISTAKE OF 2008")
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To: stormer
I would also point out that the nature of garbage collection is hardly a indicator of “liberty”. A tad bit extreme, don’t you think?

He says with a gun pointed to his head.

Yes, garbage collection IS a measure of liberty. Just one small one, but a valid measurement non-the-less.

Many of our current collection laws and regulations (those difficult terms again, laws and regulations) were written in the sanctuary of the Church of Global Warming, publlic support generated thru the efforts of State Media, and passed by worshipers.

Now even non-believers are bound by such.

19 posted on 12/06/2009 11:50:04 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (Perfection is the enemy of Good.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Wow - too much caffeine?


20 posted on 12/06/2009 11:52:11 AM PST by stormer
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