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To: Danae; AmericanVictory; LucyT
I agree that Leo posted that HI refused to disclose the details of a vital birth record “within days” of Obama’s claimed birthday.

However, this vital record could be a report of a home birth. A home birth could easily have been a fraudulent report to hide a foreign birth in an attempt to gain US citizenship for BHO II.

Danae:

I respect and support your dedication to the NBC two-US-citizen-parent approach, but I view you as consistently disregarding and diminishing potential evidence out-of-hand that leaves open the possibility that Obama was born outside the US, such as a home birth report in HI.

So far Obama has been totally open about and gotten away with declaring that his father was not a US citizen including the obviously erroneous Indiana State Appeals Court ruling. Federal courts may be cowards on this issue as well, but not if Obama was born in Kenya.

The desperate and expensive attempts by Obama to continue to hide his original HI “vital records” is the best indication that something in the record points to extreme damage to his political career such as opening the door to a foreign birth.

In my view the Chrysler dealer's quo warranto action will force discovery of the HI vital records and if those records open the door to a foreign birth in any way, then we will have something that can buttress other evidence of foreign birth.

129 posted on 12/07/2009 9:54:06 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

I am not discounting the possiblity that he was born outside the United States. Only that it is impossible to prove with out a court order releasing the documents and or a court case in Hawaii, and unless you have the money to go there and fight that battle, its not happening right now. I don’t have that money.

Until a Court Order forces the release its a dead end for now. Alternatively, start your own UIPA requests in Hawaii and then take it to a court in Oahu and demand the release of the documents. Thats the only way it is going to happen.

Do I like that? No, I don’t. But there is also nothing I can do about it.

Leo has a real hot-potato on his hands with Quo Warranto in D.C. no matter WHAT the Hawaiian documents say, that Quo Warranto would still have to happen, because frankly even if he was born in Kenya or on the moon, this congress is not going to impeach him. It is possible that the process of Quo Warrento may force the release of his Hawaiian documents, and I hope that is the case. That being said, if his long form says he was born at a given address, it is still a valid Hawaiian birth certificate and has legal weight. It would take a full on investigation by the Department of Justice, into the processes in Hawaii to even come close to proving that Obama was born somewhere else. Do you see Eric Holder appointing a special prosecutor to look into that? No, I don’t either.

Out best hope of getting this British citizen out of the people’s house is Quo Warranto.


130 posted on 12/07/2009 10:12:19 AM PST by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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. . . . . #129 and read to end of page.

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134 posted on 12/07/2009 5:03:47 PM PST by LucyT
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