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I am not discounting the possiblity that he was born outside the United States. Only that it is impossible to prove with out a court order releasing the documents and or a court case in Hawaii, and unless you have the money to go there and fight that battle, its not happening right now. I don’t have that money.

Until a Court Order forces the release its a dead end for now. Alternatively, start your own UIPA requests in Hawaii and then take it to a court in Oahu and demand the release of the documents. Thats the only way it is going to happen.

Do I like that? No, I don’t. But there is also nothing I can do about it.

Leo has a real hot-potato on his hands with Quo Warranto in D.C. no matter WHAT the Hawaiian documents say, that Quo Warranto would still have to happen, because frankly even if he was born in Kenya or on the moon, this congress is not going to impeach him. It is possible that the process of Quo Warrento may force the release of his Hawaiian documents, and I hope that is the case. That being said, if his long form says he was born at a given address, it is still a valid Hawaiian birth certificate and has legal weight. It would take a full on investigation by the Department of Justice, into the processes in Hawaii to even come close to proving that Obama was born somewhere else. Do you see Eric Holder appointing a special prosecutor to look into that? No, I don’t either.

Out best hope of getting this British citizen out of the people’s house is Quo Warranto.

“Leo has a real hot-potato on his hands with Quo Warranto in D.C. no matter WHAT the Hawaiian documents say, that Quo Warranto would still have to happen, because frankly even if he was born in Kenya or on the moon, this congress is not going to impeach him.”

I agree that Leo's quo warranto may be the best and possibly only way to compel discovery of Obama’s HI vital records, prove up his NBC status, and that the courts could then circumvent Congress to declare Obama ineligible if warranted.

I believe that Congress would impeach Obama if it were proved that he intentionally concealed knowledge that he was born in Kenya or elsewhere outside the US.

I believe that your NBC non-citizen father scenario may also require arduous investigation into whether Kezia’s marriage to BHO Sr made the Dunham-Obama marriage bigamous thus preventing dual citizenship from passing to BHO II under the 1948 BNA.