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Cars, quo warranto, and Obama (Donofrio update)
Examiner.com ^ | 12-06-2009 | Dianna Cotter

Posted on 12/05/2009 10:43:07 AM PST by Danae

With so many lawsuits filed every day in America, one more might seem irrelevant. There is one however that should be watched, but will most likely escape notice. For a little while at any rate…

*snip*

Neil Cavuto welcomed former Chrysler dealer James Anderer to his show on Fox Business News Daily to talk about a case that has been filed by a group of dealers who lost their businesses in the Washington D.C. District Court. Lead Plaintiff Anderer mentioned a team of legal experts while describing the case to Cavuto, and an anonymous source has named Leo Donofrio and Steve Pidgeon as having been retained by a group of Chrysler dealers who lost their franchise in the Chrysler bankruptcy sale. They have been retained to bring two actions:

1. A motion to reconsider the Court's approval of the dealer rejections. 2. A quo warranto in the D.C. District Court pertaining to Obama and his administration.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; chrysler; donofrio; leodonofrio; quowarranto
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Leo Donofrio has not gone quietly into the night!
1 posted on 12/05/2009 10:43:08 AM PST by Danae
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2 posted on 12/05/2009 10:43:58 AM PST by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: Danae
Don't tell me the cash for clunkers program went south again!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

3 posted on 12/05/2009 10:46:41 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Danae

Very cool. Thank you for updating us too! My heart sank when I saw his web site/blog is pretty much done.

Anyone know what happened with Hawaii? It seemed like Leo and Mick Trickly had them boxed in. She sort of disappeared because I think she was concerned about herself and family. Leo is a good guy. He has real passion and he really cares.

If the Chrysler dealers need to start a fund to finance the lawsuit - I bet many people would contrtibute. Nathan Deal in GA is getting 10 House members to ask O for his BC. Sarah is asking about it. It is not going away.


4 posted on 12/05/2009 10:47:08 AM PST by Frantzie (Judge David Carter - democrat & dishonorable Marine like John Murtha.)
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To: Danae

Quo Warranto is the only means to remove a Sitting President other than impeachment by congress. Congress gave the D.C. District court the QW as a remedy for the people to challenge a sitting president, and it can only be done there. This is a real live case folks.

Talk about hugh and series, this is a freight train comin down the Rockies with no brakes.


5 posted on 12/05/2009 10:48:25 AM PST by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: Danae
Yeah, baby! We have standing, we have lift off!!!

BUMP!!!

6 posted on 12/05/2009 10:52:55 AM PST by circumbendibus (Where's the Birth Certificate?)
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To: Frantzie

Its been pretty well proven that Obama was born there. Hawaii has admitted that they have documents dating within a week of his birth there.

It was never really an issue of where he was born! What matters is the fact that he was born to a British foreigner, and Obama inherited that Nationality as well as American at his birth. You can’t AT BIRTH have two Nationalities and be a Natural Born Citizen.

The Birth certificate was a smoke screen. Obama wanted people looking at THAT rather than looking at the fact he was a dual citizen AT BIRTH. Natural Born Citizenship is ONLY ever decided in that one instant, and can never be changed, it is a circumstance of birth. Either you have two American Citizen Parents or you don’t. Obama doesn’t. He is a citizen yes indeed, but not a Natural Born one because he ws ALSO born British due to his father.

THAT is the issue. NOT his Birth Certificate. Obama wants people to keep thinking about THAT rather than the real issue: what his dad was.


7 posted on 12/05/2009 10:53:25 AM PST by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: circumbendibus

Damn straight we do.

This is nuclear hot.


8 posted on 12/05/2009 10:54:02 AM PST by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: goldstategop

No, its a quo warrento filing in the DC district court. That is the only way for the people to kick out an usurper president when congress is unwilling to impeach.


9 posted on 12/05/2009 10:55:02 AM PST by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: Frantzie

correction - Miss Trickly. She posted here a few times. She is a neat lady.


10 posted on 12/05/2009 10:57:14 AM PST by Frantzie (Judge David Carter - democrat & dishonorable Marine like John Murtha.)
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To: Danae

Keep everyone here in the loop. I think money could be raised to fund this if need be. Americans around the country are fed up with this illegal coup.

The GW scam blowing up may be part of the piece that tumbles this corrupt and evil people.


11 posted on 12/05/2009 11:00:16 AM PST by Frantzie (Judge David Carter - democrat & dishonorable Marine like John Murtha.)
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To: Danae
What matters is the fact that he was born to a British foreigner, and Obama inherited that Nationality as well as American at his birth. You can’t AT BIRTH have two Nationalities and be a Natural Born Citizen.

Under Italian law, I have Italian nationality. My great grandfather immigrated here in 1913 and my grandfather was born before my great grandfather renounced his Italian citizenship and became a US citizen. Therefore, under their law, Italian citizenship was passed to my grandfather, my mother and me. If I fill out some papers and provide some documentation, I can get an Italian passport.

If, on the other hand, my great grandfather had come from, say, Spain, which doesn't have a law passing nationality down for generations, I would not have that status.

So, am I a natural born US citizen, since I was born here, both my parents were born here, and all four of my grandparents were born here, or do the vagaries of foreign law control who is or isn't a natural born citizen?

12 posted on 12/05/2009 11:02:04 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Frantzie

She said her husband was having health problems. She had posted about it.


13 posted on 12/05/2009 11:03:45 AM PST by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: Danae

Thank you for clarification as all this has been confusing to me. Now if the state run media can bring this to light...


14 posted on 12/05/2009 11:04:32 AM PST by Achilles Heel
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Same for my wife. Filipino and American at birth. They changed the law in the Philippines and she had to declare one or the other at age 21. Entire family came to the US.


15 posted on 12/05/2009 11:05:21 AM PST by votemout
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To: Danae
THAT is the issue. NOT his Birth Certificate.

How do you know who his father is?...For that matter, does he know?

16 posted on 12/05/2009 11:06:11 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, nothing more than bald haired hippies.)
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To: Danae

Isn’t Natural Born spelled out in the Consitution and if so then does that make him invalid by not being Natural Born?


17 posted on 12/05/2009 11:11:03 AM PST by taildragger (Palin/Mulally 2012)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
Because your parents were citizens of this Nation and you were born here, you would be considered a Natural Born citizen. In some countries, in order to get citizenship you have to meet certain qualifications, so you could apply to become a citizen of Italy, but it isn't something you directly inherited from either of your parents, particularly your father. In Obama's case, his dad was a full on British Citizen, and a Kenyan. Obama inherited both at his birth. His Kenyan Citizenship expired, and Obama ADMITS that on his fight the Smears site.
Just look at what is buried in the code when I copied and pasted it into this post! Free Republic is directly mentioned as well. Anyway, go to the bottom and read the following:
"FactCheck.org Clarifies Barack’s Citizenship “When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children. Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”"

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18 posted on 12/05/2009 11:15:13 AM PST by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: taildragger

“Isn’t Natural Born spelled out in the Consitution and if so then does that make him invalid by not being Natural Born?”

I’ve seen the statute quoted in other threads. I don’t have it handy at the moment. The problem is that the statute is very short & doesn’t reflect the INTENT - which was to prevent someone with ties to other countries from assuming the presidency. The Framers screwed up on this one.


19 posted on 12/05/2009 11:19:05 AM PST by Twotone
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To: taildragger

Natural Born is not defined anywhere in the Constitution. However, the term comes from the same document that the constitution was largely based on “The Law of Nations” by Emer. Vattel written in the 1750’s. In it Natural Born is described as this:
“The natives, or natural-born citizens, are thofe born in the country, of parents who are citizens.”
Vattel, Emerich. “THE LAW OF NATIONS OR PRINCIPLES OF THE LAW OF NATURE APPLIED TO THE CONDUCT AND AFFAIRS OF NATIONS AND SOVEREIGNS.” 1797.

http://books.google.com/books?id=z8b8rrzRc7AC&dq=vattel+law+of+Nations&printsec=frontcover&source=bn&hl=en&ei=nTgHS_rdKYeQsgPzy4zACQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CBgQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=Parents%20who%20are%20citizens&f=false

There has been no specific Supreme Court case that has defined it either, but the court HAS made the distinction between citizen and Natural Born Citizen several times, noting that there IS a difference!


20 posted on 12/05/2009 11:19:18 AM PST by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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