Beam me to Planet Gore !
Posted on 12/05/2009 7:19:49 AM PST by Stingray
From: Phil Jones xxxxxxxx
To: John Christy xxxxxxxx
Subject: This and that
Date: Tue Jul 5 15:51:55 2005
"The scientific community would come down on me in no uncertain terms if I said the world had cooled from 1998. OK it has but it is only 7 years of data and it isn't statistically significant."
More here:
Jones' e-mail
(Excerpt) Read more at eastangliaemails.com ...
Because he and his colleagues were instrumental in helping to create the highly politicized environment that has marginalized, demonized and dismissed global warming skeptics for years, and now this guy is afraid the same would happen to him if he told the truth!
The CRU e-mails contain much hand-wringing over the fact that people were getting on to them, as evinced by this line from the top of the e-mail:
"John, There has been some email traffic in the last few days to a week - quite a bit really, only a small part about MSU. The main part has been one of your House subcommittees wanting Mike Mann and others and IPCC to respond on how they produced their reconstructions and how IPCC produced their report. In case you want to look at this see later in the email !"
In his concluding comments from the e-mail, Jones wistfully opines:
"As you know, I'm not political. If anything, I would like to see the climate change happen, so the science could be proved right, regardless of the consequences. This isn't being political, it is being selfish."
Wait a minute! I thought these guys said climate change IS already happening! Of course they knew it wasn't happening according to their theories, but they - and their faithful - persist in repeating the lies even now.
Here are links to what the source code associated with these e-mails say:
Link to the FOI2009 zip file (download is free, just wait for it) in case you want to do your own digging.
And finally, a "blurb" from the Washington Post about Jones stepping down as East Anglia investigation gets underway.
This country couldn't afford cap & tax if the global warming alarmists were right. We shouldn't have to suffer it for a lie.
By the way, did you know Al Gore's "Inconvienient Truth" took a shot from the movie "The Day After Tomorrow" without attribution? Here's a link to that!
Gore's film, purported to be a documentary, used computer generated animation from a fictional movie and attached no credit or attribution to it, essentially leading the viewer to believe the CG shot from The Day After Tomorrow (a propaganda piece in its own right) was real. And how does Al Gore justify such excesses?
Q: There's a lot of debate right now over the best way to communicate about global warming and get people motivated. Do you scare people or give them hope? What's the right mix?I think the answer to that depends on where your audience's head is. In the United States of America, unfortunately we still live in a bubble of unreality. And the Category 5 denial is an enormous obstacle to any discussion of solutions. Nobody is interested in solutions if they don't think there's a problem. Given that starting point, I believe it is appropriate to have an over-representation of factual presentations on how dangerous it is, as a predicate for opening up the audience to listen to what the solutions are, and how hopeful it is that we are going to solve this crisis.
Source: grist.org
In other words, it's OK to lie to people as long as you can get them to buy your "solutions." In Al Gore's case, he stands to make a lot of money selling those solutions.
Al Gore is a liar and a hypocrite and needs to be continually exposed for the fraud both he and his junk science are.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus
Yep - at every appearance, the Goron MUST be protested, mocked, ridiculed, exposed with good signs, handouts given out to the decieved standing in line for is book signings..,,and then he needs to be sued and arrested and in jail....the sooner the better.
Al Gore is a liar and a hypocrite and needs to be continually exposed ...BTTT
We can’t let the MSM win this.
Best ClimateGate clips (show everybody you know):
No the scientific community would not but the high preists of the religious cult of Environmentalism would.
Thanks!
Wow
What a telling admission
Tell everyone via viral emails ...
“No the scientific community would not but the high preists of the religious cult of Environmentalism would.”
Actually, he would have gotten it from both sides: the cultists, who would’ve tried to destroy him, and real scientists, who would’ve asked exactly the same questions we are: “why hide the facts?”
Public science isn’t supposed to work under the cover of darkness. These people were taking public grants to do public research and then hiding and manipulating data to fit their own whacked-out theories. And the IPCC built an entire global environmental policy based on the shoddy and biased work they were doing.
One of the other things you find in the FOI2009 archive is a lot of emphasis on grant writing. I don’t know what’s worse: subverting science for the sake of ideology or money. In either case, does it matter? Science was clearly subverted here and the cost to nations and taxpayers worldwide is unjustified.
Real scientists, as we’re beginning to see, have a problem with this.
But they were also hypocrites, at least in the case of Jones. He was fearful that he would receive the same kind of treatment that he, Mann, and their small cadre of AGW cultists were dishing out on their skeptics.
They weren’t doing science. They were defending dogma and, in the end, couldn’t retreat from the ground they had staked their reputations on even in light of the overwhelming evidence they knew was arrayed against them.
They should be fired, stripped of their academic titles and degrees, and any funding they received should be returned to the agencies that provided it.
such scum, so little time.
Life has become a horror movie.
Well ya could have told me that Alex is a Truther of the highest order.
Here is another email I found, just by clinking on your link and going to the next email in the sequence:
From: Phil Jones p.jones@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
To: “Neville Nicholls” N.Nicholls@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: RE: Misc
Date: Wed Jul 6 15:07:45 2005
Neville, Mike’s response could do with a little work, but as you say he’s got the tone almost dead on. I hope I don’t get a call from congress ! I’m hoping that no-one there realizes I have a US DoE grant and have had this (with Tom W.) for the last 25 years.
I’ll send on one other email received for interest.
Cheers
Phil
Hmmm... he is concerned about his US DoE grant... all this fudging can’t be related to protecting his grant money can it? (sarc)
Just to reinforce the point of my last post: realclimate.org - just like everything else these people have touched or created - is tainted by them and their corrupt science until they can prove otherwise. Realclimate.org should be taken down, and all the frauds they’ve foisted on us should be purged.
Time to let real adults do the real science.
“Hmmm... he is concerned about his US DoE grant... all this fudging can’t be related to protecting his grant money can it? (sarc)”
He claims he isn’t political, so he’s either a “true believer” or he’s in it for the money. Hard to tell with some people these days.
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