i.e. ..... THE DATA IS IN THE DUMP !!!
Posted on 12/05/2009 6:59:50 AM PST by Libloather
Hacked climate e-mail rebutted by scientists
Peter Fimrite, Chronicle Staff Writer
Saturday, December 5, 2009
A group of the nation's top scientists defended research on global climate change Friday against what they called a politically motivated smear campaign designed to foster public doubt about irrefutable scientific facts.
The allegations came after skeptics seized upon a series of hacked e-mails at England's University of East Anglia Climate Research Unit as evidence of a climate change hoax.
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Drumbeat of skepticism
Despite this, the drumbeat of skepticism about global warming has never been louder. The Internet and conservative news programs have been flooded over the past week with breathless accounts of alleged scientific fraud.
Exhibit A in the controversy are the stolen e-mails, which include messages between academics in the United States and Britain talking about getting greenhouse skeptics "ousted" and referring to research "tricks."
Phil Jones, head of the East Anglia research unit, temporarily stepped down Tuesday after the university began an investigation into the stolen files, which officials called a "criminal breach."
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Mountain of evidence
Schmidt and Michael Oppenheimer, the director of the Science, Technology and Environmental Policy department at Princeton's Woodrow Wilson School, said the mountain of scientific evidence pointing to human-caused climate change is all available for scientific review by any skeptic.
They said a colder than normal October in the U.S. - often cited by warming skeptics - does not make for a trend, no matter how often it is repeated on blogs and cable television.
(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...
No mention of snowfall near Houston?
All the Damn Data that is Worth to Hide Proves AGW is not a scientific argument.
These guys all need to go to prison.
“They said a colder than normal October in the U.S. - often cited by warming skeptics - does not make for a trend, no matter how often it is repeated on blogs and cable television”
How about no warming since 1999 - it that a trend yet?
I’m pretty sure 99% of the skeptics realize that a colder October doesn’t necessarily indicate a long-term trend. But we’re also tired of see features about global warming every time some ski resort has a bad winter, and we appreciate the opportunity to send the AGW cultists into a tizzy by playing their game back at them.
It's certainly a mountain of something.
We need a 5 step or 7 step phase on what are the signs of a denier...
AGW BIGFOOT DENIER HERE !!
Let them call us BIGFOOTERS, I would see it as a honor...
Over the last 20 years, the US government spent $32 billion on climate research, yet has failed to find any evidence that carbon dioxide emissions significantly affect temperature or represent a danger. Government agencies, the private sector, and universities were the recipients of this money. These organizations have a vested interest in maintaining the myth.
The feds also spent another $36 billion for development of climate-related technologies in the form of subsidies and tax breaks. Solar and wind-power generation of electricity can be a supplemental supply, but these methods could not compete with fossil fuels without a subsidy. These industries have a vested interest in maintaining the myth.
The ethanol industry is founded solely on the myth that we must reduce our use of fossil fuels, even though the U.S. has abundant supplies.
The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (Bailout bill) contained $3.4 billion for research and experimentation in the area of carbon sequestration – burying carbon dioxide generated by fossil fuel plants. There are also, really wild schemes for geoengineering, schemes to block the sun with mirrors, or seed the atmosphere with sulfur to produce more clouds.
On the world commodities market, trading carbon credits generated $126 billion in 2008, and big banks are collecting fees, and some project a market worth $2 trillion. Al Gore’s venture capital firm, Hara Software which makes software to track greenhouse gas emissions, stands to make billions of dollars from cap-and-trade regulation. If the myth is destroyed, this market will evaporate.
Back in 2007, a coalition of major corporations and environmental groups formed the U.S. Climate Action Partnership (USCAP) to lobby for cap & trade. The companies planned to profit (at least in the short term) from either the cap-and-trade provisions or from selling high-priced, politically-favored (if not mandated) so-called “green” technology to the rest of us — whether we need it or not, and regardless of whether it produces any environmental or societal benefits.
Corporate USCAP members include: Alcoa, BP America, Caterpillar Inc., Dow Chemical, Duke Energy, DuPont, FPL Group, Exelon, General Electric, Lehman Brothers, John Deer & Co, PG&E Corporation, and PNM Resources.
Has science been co-opted by greed and ideology; has government been co-opted by scientific elitists?
In his farewell address, Dwight D. Eisenhower gave this warning:
“Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers. The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present — and is gravely to be regarded.”
“Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.”
http://www.climatechangefraud.com/editorials/5692-global-warming-industry-meets-reality
This echoes a perceptive Conservatives vs. Liberals meme, in that it appears that human-caused global warming "skeptics" get angry when people tell lies about them, while human-caused global warming disaster "alarmists" such as the "scientist" quoted in the article get angry when people tell the truth about them...
Thanks Ernest_at_the_Beach.
He responds to emails at his Real Climate blog and is approachable.
He has at times disagreed with Michael Mann, which is funny for it is obvious the two are indeed in bed together.
You B.A.D.! ;-P
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