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To: rlmorel; Kaslin

We’re already learning the next global man-made global crisis: Ocean acidification!! Horrors! Unlike the global warming connection, there is no controversy that atmospheric CO2 is increasing and man is most likely the cause. That it is causing global warming is being debunked. However, they are now going after its possible effects on ocean life. I don’t think that’s going anywhere as CO2 has been a lot higher and again ocean plants may increase to reduce its effects. But that’s the latest “sky is falling” call by the ecofreaks and one worlders.


29 posted on 12/04/2009 6:33:58 PM PST by CedarDave (FOX news:"Fair and balanced (no matter what the White House says) . We report because others won't.")
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To: CedarDave
I don’t think that’s going anywhere as CO2 has been a lot higher and again ocean plants may increase to reduce its effects.

Plants are prospering with the additional CO2. Since the first satellite survey (in 1968, I believe) the tree-covered area of the earth has measurably increased. (Despite the "rape of the rain forest"...)

We can safely posit that the ocean plants -- which also convert CO2 into oxygen -- have been doing the same.

30 posted on 12/04/2009 6:41:26 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: CedarDave; All

Actually, here is the thing, but before I begin, I just want everyone to be sure to read this post all the way to the end before jumping down my throat, because I am trying to make an important distinction that we as “Global Warming Skeptics” must understand in order to make effective arguments:

1.) Nobody who understands the issue will deny that there is indeed global warming going on. That is undeniable and it is provable.

2.) Nobody who understands the issue will deny that some of man’s activities may be involved in that global warming. That is something even many skeptics will accept.

Here is where the skepticism comes into play:

1.) We agree there is warming, and the data may show it, but it is NOT something that is historically unique. It has happened before, and it will happen again.

2.) The amount of CO2 added by man’s activities will NOT result in catastrophic change.

When referring to this, the people led by Al Gore and James Hansen believe that each word in this following phrase is settled, undeniable, scientific, true, accurate and significant: CATASTROPHIC ANTHROPOGENIC GLOBAL WARMING.

Remember that. It is key to framing any argument you must make.


32 posted on 12/04/2009 6:48:44 PM PST by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: CedarDave
The Chart they show you.

The Part of the chart they left off:

33 posted on 12/04/2009 6:53:20 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: CedarDave
Man is most likely the cause of increasing CO2? I think not.
Man is a contributing factor, but IIRC, it has been shown that CO2 increases are a response to the warming, and this was happening long before SUVs.
40 posted on 12/04/2009 7:25:30 PM PST by FreedomOfExpression
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