Posted on 12/04/2009 8:07:39 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
Behe, your ID hero, stated under oath that the Intelligent Designer (God for the uninformed) is most probably dead and that school children should be taught that he was most probably dead since there was no evidence of his existence in the last few hundred million years.
Muslims also believe in a Jesus that was a great moral teacher...This belief does not, however, make them Christians.
A Jesus who is not the Messiah and who is not the miracle-working Son of God is not the Jesus of the Bible and not the Jesus of the Christian faith.
Jefferson was a self-declared materialist who believed, unfortunately, only in a (false) moral-teaching Jesus.
I’d call gub’mnt schools the cultural suicide of lowered expectations. I play on L. Elders soft racism . . .
I cannot even find evidence of the creation of the planets. Even the moon is described (falsely) as a source of light.
“Regardless of whether or not JR sanctions your lies..
They are still lies.” xcamel.
Are you saying that there is no difference between Thomas Jefferson and a muslim?
Among other places, I Corinthians 15:
1 Now I am reminding you, brothers, of the gospel I preached to you, which you indeed received and in which you also stand.
2 Through it you are also being saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to you, unless you believed in vain.
3 For I handed on to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the scriptures;
4 that he was buried; that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the scriptures;
Which scriptures?
Only someone like ‘count-your-change’ who is so devoid of valid arguments they they can only resort to infantile ad hominem attacks...
Theoretically, yes, but in practice there can be and has been, shall we say, a bit of a time lag involved there.
That’s my question exactly-what reasoning? It’s assumed a priori to already be false based on a belief system that is incompatible( mostly-there is the ‘god designed evolution’ school) with evolution.
The reasoning that the one who made everything told us how He did it.
He made man from the dust of the earth. He did not say that He used other animals.
Therefore, there will never be a transitional fossil found that will definitively link mankind to the animal kingdom in a way that would support that man evolved from animals.
Of course there are similarities, but that would stem from the fact that we inhabit the same world, eat the same food, breathe the same air, etc. Not to mention that the DNA code that works for controlling, say , the eye, would reasonably be similar for all creatures.
But the similarities in DNA would reflect more the use of the similar code for controlling similar functions, rather than the interpretation that they evolved from each other.
IOW, it's more a matter of common design, rather than common descent.
Speaking of cultural suicide, have you seen this?
BREAKING: Obama’s “Safe Schools Czar” Is Promoting Child Porn in the Classroom
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2400328/posts
pby, I suspect CW is nought but a muslim or atheist (No, no! really (he says) I am a Christian, I just don’t believe what the Bible says, nor in Jesus) who gets pleasure at trying to nit pick and degrade a persons Faith.
As such he really is irrelevant and perhaps should be ignored in these boards (along with others of his ilk).
A common fallacy amongst evos. Biblical creationists hold to the traditional approach to interpreting scripture, the historical-grammatical method, which is specifically employed to arrive at original intent. Even most old earth creationists use this method to interpret the Bible...that is, they apply it to most every book of the Bible except Genesis. In that case, they prefer to defer to the opinions of mere mortals (so long as they are wearing white lab coats).
Nope.
And...I assume that you know that I am not and are asking the silly question as part of an ill-conceived debate point.
The point made was that believing that Jesus was a great moral teacher does not make one a Christian.
(Of course, folks who believe that Jesus was just a great moral teacher have to figure out how to explain that this alleged great moral teacher identifies Himself as the eternal God, Messiah and Creator. Is He really a great moral teacher if he incorrectly identifies Himself as something that He is not? Do great moral teachers lie as they teach? Are great moral teachers crazy?)
“I had my doubts about that Jonah and the whale story but when my church told me that men had one less rib than women because God created women from man’s rib I knew it was a bunch of malarky.”
I would consider it fairly ignorant to take one man’s un-scientific postulations on the scripture and throw my eternal salvation down the crapper.
Would you do that because of the views of a few flaky scientists? OH wait... you did! Sorry I asked.
If you ever want to come back around, we’ll talk.
It is seriously a shame. Would you assume that because Jim Jones talked a bunch of lemmings into suicide that all religious leaders hold Jim Jones views and are bound to offer them cyanide-laced Kool-Aid? That’s not thinking like a scientist, CW. That’s thinking like a school-boy. Surely you’re capable of better.
“I don’t know how one could top the intellect that produced this:
“Regardless of whether or not JR sanctions your lies..
They are still lies.” xcamel.”
Heresy, I tell you! HERESY!
Of course, I love me some Heresy’s chocolate milk now and again.
If you hold your hands up long enough, or type louder, someone somewhere might eventually believe you...
You are sick.
So your position is that the direct admonition of “beleveth in him” is not enough, eh? You insist on adding “beleveth in the bible” - Sorry, I never read that anywhere...
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