Posted on 12/03/2009 1:38:50 AM PST by MestaMachine
Obviously the goal of the RNC to elect “republicans” has had disasterous results for the entire country, hasn’t it?
You guys that just keep repaeating over and over that we got to start at the bottom don’t get it. The RNC decides who they will push, who gets the money and ad time on TV. Bottom people do NOT have the power to change anything, and WE don’t have twenty years to slow walk Conservatives to the tops of tickets.
Ain't that the truth! :-)
I’m not suggesting we rely on any national party. That’s been tried and has proved to be more of the problem rather than the solution. We, the grassroots ARE the voters and we’re mad as hell and determined now more than ever to run the liberals AND the RINOS out on a rail!!
Vote them OUT in 2010!!
Curing the disease is too much work for many. Better to flail away at the symptoms because that brings instant gratitude and who cares if it doesn’t work?
I feel good today and that’s all that matters.
Totally disagree. You’re saying, “I am not going to support the RNC until…” I am saying, “I am not supporting the RNC period.” I’d much rather be a part of a movement that happens to belong to a party.
If every conservative converted just ONE moderate each between now and November 2010, it is ball game over big time and for a long time. Parties follow, we need to lead.
Why the purveyors of rugged individualism look to their national party or long for that one voice to speak our mantra, when it should be deafening chorus of a massive grassroots ground swell, is beyond be me.
Give me a tea party over an RNC convention any day of the week.
Bob J, lol thanks, now I feel good too.
“Maybe you’d get better results aiming your efforts at the voters in the districts electing the RINO’s?”
A campaign like this grows legs, Bob. It starts with the letters. It doesn’t end there. I am well aware of the phrase, “All politics is local.” And we have made great strides in reorganizing, and in some cases, completely changing our own local politics.
“Do you know how or why a Snowe, Collins, Grahame or Spectre wins a majority of the votes even in their first election?”
Yes, Bob, and I even know how to spell Graham and Specter.
Specter won because he was a democrat who switched parties to run in his first election, but he has always had the backing of the Philly establishment thugocracy and the unions for his liberalism and that has always been why he was re-elected as well. He was NEVER a real republican.
Graham won because he campaigned as a Conservative with a military resume in a southern state that is conservative and partial to the military. For his time in Congress, he stayed Conservative. The Clinton impeachment elevated his stature to that of a Conservative hero, and FR helped that.
When he got to the Senate, everything changed. He glued himself to mxxain’s backside and never unstuck himself. He can be defeated.
Collins and Snowe are from liberal states. So what? Liberalism in their states hasn’t helped them any. The message in those states has to resonate. Do you think they aren’t feeling the heat from what this administration is doing.
NOW is the time to strike. That is the beauty of FR. MEMBERS in EVERY STATE IN THE COUNTRY!!! THAT is power, Bob.
“Do you even know how Scozzafava got her nomination?”
Why, yes, I do.
She was handpicked by a disgruntled rino upon his leaving the chairmanship of his district, and in collusion with the o admin, to replace a “?r” who the o admin conveniently appointed to a cabinet post. The district party hacks knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that she was to the left, even of obama.
The RNC took up and supported her nomination, wasted hundreds of thousands of dollars, and you see what a disaster that was.
“You don’t create something lasting by burning it from the top down. You build it from the bottom up.”
The power in the party starts from the top down. You change things by changing the power stucture. You change the power structure by refusing to go along to get along, Bob. That has not worked in all these years and it will not work now.
We are not throwing the baby out with the bathwater. We are rescuing it from drowning in the filthy bathwater no one has bothered to change...UNTIL NOW!!!
I think Jim Robinson understands this or he would not have sanctioned this project.
Anymore questions?
The RINOs have already killed the baby. Dump the filthy bath water and the filthy RINOS!!
Vote them OUT in 2010!!
“You’re saying, ‘I am not going to support the RNC until…WE OWN IT’”
There. fixed it.
I just now got caught up reading the posts on the other thread. Will work on this one now. BUMP!
I just use it like a RSS reader these days and leave it at that. They have pretty much run out of targets to attack and the boredom is evident with the Romney fun and games. If it was not that, it would be something or someone else.
The problem is that Romney's pac is the only one that has been funding conservatives at the levels necessary to win. Talk about eat your own....
Oh well...........
Let's hope a dynamic leader emerges soon to gather this disparate mess back together.
God I love and appreciate your passion but I still believe that relying on the national party for anything or at any time other than the presidential election, which is the only national election, is a big mistake.
We now have things like this board to alert conservatives of notable candidates throughout the country. I don’t think we’ll ever “own” the RNC and even if we did my general distrust of all things centralized would still keep me from trusting it to properly dole out my contribution.
I consider the RNC to be like leap year.
RonnieFan, the national party gets involved in local elections too. Or have you already forgotten the Scozzafava earthquake? Because it WAS an earthquake. And WE moved the earth. Don’t you understand???
YAY on us!!! I feel a song coming on. LOL
MestaMachine, your wrote “And WE moved the earth. Don’t you understand???” I do. I just think energy is better spend maximizing the number and power of the “WE” than fretting over the RNC. The earth was moved and “owning” the RNC had nothing to do with it.
I’m not going to debate you line by line, although I could and very effectively. For someone who seems to be as intelligent and as much a student of political history as you appear to be, I am awestruck at the illogical and invalid conclusions you draw from what seems like a fairly good menu of premise’s.
So all I’ll say to you is good luck.
Good job to all those that worked on this.
And this:
LOL That is FUNNY!!!
“Talk about eat your own....”
Oh. You mean like your post? What is it with you guys who think you are sooo right when everything you espouse has turned out sooo wrong for sooo long?
I mean do you WANT us to keep banging our heads on the proverbial brick wall until we die?
Times have changed.
This isn’t just about writing letters. It’s about putting our money where our mouth is. It’s about getting involved at every single level to stop this insanity.
WHY do you insist on gloom and doom? I wouldn’t be writing our obituary just yet. But hey, thanks for bumping the thread. Even THAT little bit of support is better than nothing.
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