Posted on 12/02/2009 3:48:55 PM PST by Libloather
Climatologists under pressure
Stolen e-mails have revealed no scientific conspiracy, but do highlight ways in which climate researchers could be better supported in the face of public scrutiny.
The e-mail archives stolen last month from the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia (UEA), UK, have been greeted by the climate-change-denialist fringe as a propaganda windfall (see page 551). To these denialists, the scientists' scathing remarks about certain controversial palaeoclimate reconstructions qualify as the proverbial 'smoking gun': proof that mainstream climate researchers have systematically conspired to suppress evidence contradicting their doctrine that humans are warming the globe.
This paranoid interpretation would be laughable were it not for the fact that obstructionist politicians in the US Senate will probably use it next year as an excuse to stiffen their opposition to the country's much needed climate bill. Nothing in the e-mails undermines the scientific case that global warming is real — or that human activities are almost certainly the cause. That case is supported by multiple, robust lines of evidence, including several that are completely independent of the climate reconstructions debated in the e-mails.
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Denialists often maintain that these changes are just a symptom of natural climate variability. But when climate modellers test this assertion by running their simulations with greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide held fixed, the results bear little resemblance to the observed warming. The strong implication is that increased greenhouse-gas emissions have played an important part in recent warming, meaning that curbing the world's voracious appetite for carbon is essential (see pages 568 and 570).
This is an excerpt.
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The thing is, no one will ever take these guys seriously again.
They are laughable.
The..... Earth..... is...... getting....... colder......! Stick that up your “denailist!”
BUT THERE IS NO OBSERVED WARMING! In fact, we've been cooling off for the past 10 years. That's the point the emails make--they've been cheating.
“T he thing is, no one will ever take these guys seriously again.”
Exactly! Their credibility is shot - and with good reason! How can they seriously claim that nothing in the emails undermines the scientific case for global warming?
Popular Science is now more credible than Nature.
I have an idea. Instead of a computer model, why don't we compare the temperature data of the last 1000 years with the graphs from the ice core data of the comparable periods during the last several interglacial periods. They match. Despite significantly lower levels of CO2 in the prior periods. It's only by gaming the system with flawed computer models can these fraudsters find "proof" of AGW.
I know we have a lot of “Global Warming” enthusiasts here - where are you? We really need your intuitive input. I know that you have an explanation for all this uproar regarding the emails. Chime in folks!
And yes, the Sun seems to have a significant effect on global warming (or as I would call it, Earth warming/cooling)... Of course this is a natural cycle (as is the lack of sunspots causing global cooling now - watch out for the future) and will fortunately continue - thank goodness...heh.
In other words, the models designed to show that CO2 causes warming show that CO2 causes warming. Big surprise, that.
Math re-figure 5% non-water, 3.75% CO2 of which 85% is natural. So 15% of 3.75% = 0.56% of greenhouse gas is man made.
Try and imagine the deafening outcry if the story was just SLIGHTLY different:
- “Emails reveal that biologists deliberately hid and manipulated experimental results. Certain medical tests now suspect.”
- “Emails reveal that pharmacologists deliberately hid and manipulated experimental results. Drugs affected.”
- “Emails reveal that structural chemists deliberately hid and manipulated experimental results. Airplane makers investigating the impact.”
- “Emails reveal that chemists deliberately distorted experimental results. Tire manufacturers reviewing the impact.”
- “Emails reveal that engineers distorted operational data from several nuclear reactors. Nuclear Regulatory Agency investigating criteria for scoring reactor safety.”
But apparently it’s okay if people using climate research as a smokescreen for world socialism do it.
They should be barred from EVER publishing anything more complicated than “The Academic Fraud’s Coloring Book”.
**cough** Fortran code **cough**
This is the heart of the problem. These models are no good. They are fabricated to reinforce a preconceived theory.
Crap! Also bullshit! No apologies for the profanity.
Science is about numbers. Science is about proving things by REPEATABLE experiments. If it cannot be replicated it is not science, it is at most, a theory.
If they had the real numbers they would release them so that every REAL scientist in the world could duplicate their process and come to the same conclusion. NATURE takes a big hit with this one. I am seriously disappointed.
“Delete any e-mails” is the common phrase used by government-funded experts to mean, “Let’s have an open, honest communication process.”
It’s very similar to “We’ve dumped all the raw temperature data,” which (as any genuine science PhD knows) is the common way that serious academics say, “Check my research? Heh. Good luck with that, ducky.”
This article is proof positive that the word ‘expert’ exists primarily to dignify charlatans.
Heh...Maybe we are just trying harder to grow our gardens! Please, give me more CO2...ha. (Hey, my Jalapenos plants will support you)...
This is ghastly. Nature’s polemic is sad; worse, it is juvenile.
Deceit and conspiracy do mean there are con-men at work.
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