Posted on 12/01/2009 8:51:22 PM PST by rabscuttle385
Jeb Bush is unique in that he is both unknown and known. He can certainly win a GOP primary, and can raise the money to compete with frontrunners Palin and Romney. I think Jeb will be getting more involved over the next several months, starting with the Florida senate primary. I also think Cheney is a Jeb proxy, and that his attacks are meant to undermine Obama while moving the country back into the Bush/Cheney policy direction, awaiting a new leader to take the torch from the former Vice President. Remember, Cheney earlier this year, unprompted, suggested he would support Jeb Bush for president in 2012. Considering that there are significant people in the party harping about a Cheney run, as well as a media fascination with such a run, coupled with the realty that a 71 year old with a bad heart simply will not run, opens the door to Jeb Bush taking up the mantle in 2012. Bush would fill that media desire to clash Obama with Cheney, only enhancing it.
With Huckabee and Palin potentially sitting out in 2012, there is a huge opening for someone to take up the anti-Romney position. Bush, with his vast network of connections, his organizing potential, and the generation of political chits collected by the Bush family, puts Jeb in as good a position as a Pawlenty or a Daniels to make a bid and challenge Romney. Now if Palin runs, and the field fills up, then Jeb will likely wait until 2016, or simply stay out of public life and let his son, George P. Bush (nicknamed 47 by the family) take up the presidential legacy down the line.
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“Nope — results over stupidity.”
So, you propose to continue to repeat the same mistakes that have brought us to this point and expect a different result.
Uh huh.
>>So, you propose to continue to repeat the same mistakes that have brought us to this point and expect a different result.<<
So, how is that hopey-changy thing working for you? You happy with the result of your ideological high road?
A bad as McCain would have been, at least he wouldn’t COMPLETELY pervert the system we work so hard to protect.
Your vote for obama has come home to roost.
For all of America, I say “thanks a lot.”
Tell me, how long did Obozo campaign for during the 2008 election cycle? He started campaigning in 2006. He had two years to obtain “name recognition”. It did not happen overnight as you seem to think. Also, he managed to receive the backing of many people who do have significant name recognition (Colin Powell comes to mind here as just one - there are many others). If memory serves, Billy Jeff accomplished the same level of name recognition by starting an early campaign also.
>>ople have some knowledge for who Jeb Bush is. No candidate without name recognition has ever won a national election for the GOP.<<
That is a huge problem. But if a muslim born in kenya can get elected, maybe we can get someone who is a real conservative. If we can shut the Romneys and Huckabees and McCains and Gingriches up and let the country follow its natural flow toward Conservative values.
It is like the “leaders” don’t trust Americans to see what made us great and what weakens us...
“So, how is that hopey-changy thing working for you? You happy with the result of your ideological high road?”
McCain and Graham are the happy ones, sparky.
“A bad as McCain would have been, at least he wouldn’t COMPLETELY pervert the system we work so hard to protect.”
Oh, he’d have been a little slower. Same result. What’s more, he WANTED Obama to win.
“Your vote for obama has come home to roost.”
I didn’t vote for Obama, sparky. I voted for someone who doesn’t want to import 10s of millions of new Democrats while expanding the welfare state. So, I clearly didn’t vote McCain either.
The campaigning for the 2012 election cycle has already begun. Now we need to have true conservatives engage in campaigning of the type that Bill Clinton and Obozo used to win their elections. And, the American people need to pay closer attention to what is going on before casting their ballot.
You voted for R-U-N Paul then?
If Jeb’s the nominee, I am voting for him, plain and simple.
His brother gave us 7 years of prosperity and low taxes. He also gave us brave leadership during 9/11. He guided America to be a country that respects life and religion.
If Jeb could do just half the good his brother did for this country I would be satisfied.
“If Jeb Bush ran against Hillary Clinton, I would sit out and let Hitlery win. “
Suppose it was Jeb against Obama in 2012? Would you sit out and let Obama, Pelosi and Reid win and continue their march toward socialism?
“You voted for R-U-N Paul then?”
Idiotic name-mangling of a Conservative aside, no, I didn’t.
I voted Baldwin.
>>I didn’t vote for Obama, sparky. I voted for someone who doesn’t want to import 10s of millions of new Democrats while expanding the welfare state. So, I clearly didn’t vote McCain either.<<
Yes you did, sweetness. You voted for hopey changey as directly as if you were a member of ACORN or SEIU.
If you can’t see that then you are hopelessly lost in your own miasma of delusion.
obama’s reign is on your hands. Live with it.
“His brother gave us 7 years of prosperity and low taxes. He also gave us brave leadership during 9/11. He guided America to be a country that respects life and religion.”
Expansion of the welfare state, attempts at illegal alien amnesty, expansion of federal power, massive spending, and this whole “religion of peace” crap and limited war instead of total war.
What’s not to love about that?
Oh, and just how did he guide “America to be a country that respects life and religion”? What changed on that front?
>>Would you sit out and let Obama, Pelosi and Reid win and continue their march toward socialism?<<
Clearly, many on this thread proudly did exactly that and will do it again. When they start tracking website use and taking people away for “bad thinking,” these folk will be able to say from their cell “Ron Paul, why would anyone vote otherwise?”
People need to READ the story of Pyrrhus. And understand it.
“Yes you did, sweetness. You voted for hopey changey as directly as if you were a member of ACORN or SEIU.”
Of course, that’s unadulterated BS. The core of the GOP establishment is just as onboard with the “hopey changey” as Obama and his minions. YOU voted for that. YOU support that.
It’s amazing that anyone would be proud of having no principles. Strange times we live in.
>>Of course, that’s unadulterated BS. The core of the GOP establishment is just as onboard with the “hopey changey” as Obama and his minions. YOU voted for that. YOU support that.<<
Um, it was you that voted (by abstentia) for obama. Once I knew we had our at least malleable jerkwad, I decided to stand in the way of Socialism. You decided to invite it in.
>>It’s amazing that anyone would be proud of having no principles. Strange times we live in.<<
The perfect is the DEADLY ENEMY of the Good. Congratulations on putting mr. hopey-changey in. With “principled” people like you, we will get hillary, then michelle.
Way to go! Do you feel good? Wait until he gives it all away in Copenhagen — you will have an ORGASM!
There is never an excuse for stupid. And voting (directly or indirectly) for socialists/communists is stupid.
“Um, it was you that voted (by abstentia) for obama. Once I knew we had our at least malleable jerkwad, I decided to stand in the way of Socialism. You decided to invite it in.”
What was malleable about McCain? The man delights in attacking conservatives! He freaking stands FOR SOCIALISM.
The koolaid is strong in you.
“The perfect is the DEADLY ENEMY of the Good. “
I’d settle for “Good”. We haven’t had “Good” win the GOP nomination since RWR.
“Wait until he gives it all away in Copenhagen — you will have an ORGASM!”
Oh, I’m sure GOP stalwarts like Graham will.
“There is never an excuse for stupid. And voting (directly or indirectly) for socialists/communists is stupid.”
Voting McCain was voting for socialism:
“I think the Democratic Party is a fine party, and I have
no problems with it, in their views and their philosophy.” - John McCain, April 2, 2004.
and
“”I have to tell you, [Obama] is a decent person, a person that youdo not have to be scared [of] as president of the United States.” October 10, 2008
(quotes courtesy of Rabscuttle)
I’m supposed to vote for that idiot? Are you kidding me? He said that last while he was supposed to be running AGAINST OBAMA.
There’s never an excuse for stupid, but I’m sure you’ll have one anyway.
>>There’s never an excuse for stupid, but I’m sure you’ll have one anyway.<<
It will never be as good as your excuse for putting obama in office. Enjoy your hopey-changey.
You did it — own it, live with it.
“It will never be as good as your excuse for putting obama in office. Enjoy your hopey-changey.”
I voted against socialism. You voted for it.
You are either ignorant of the nature of those you support or you are in severe denial.
“Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.” - John Q. Adams
>>I voted against socialism. You voted for it.<<
No you didn’t. You voted for obama.
>>You are either ignorant of the nature of those you support or you are in severe denial.<<
It is you who is in denial. You can shave and brush your teeth (or tooth), but the bottom line is you put obama in office. Perhaps you don’t understand that elections have consequences. Your little “protest vote” was a vote for Socialism. The fact McCain was frustratingly lefty doesn’t make him nearly as bad as your candidate, obama.
>>“Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.” - John Q. Adams<<
But, lost it was. JQA lived in a different time.
You voted for obama — own it. Your cutesy hissy fit put him in. You are responsible for the creeping socialism that he is darkening our country with.
Hopey changey — it is on you.
Do you all recall how posters urged conservatives to vote the Republican ticket even though they didn't want McCain, and that staying away from the polls would be a huge mistake?
Well, whether we agreed with them or not at the time, they proved themselves right, IMO. I was one of those who seriously considered staying home on election day; instead I opted to vote and my only reasonable choice was McCain.
If all conservatives had voted for him, despite their disgust with the Republican Party, could he have won over Obama? I'd take McCain any day over the "White House Mistake" we now endure.
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