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Israel sticks to its guns on F-35
Space War ^ | 11/30/2009 | UPI Via Space War

Posted on 11/30/2009 10:17:13 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld

Israel is sticking to its guns on a demand the United States allow it to integrate its own electronic warfare suite in Lockheed Martin's F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, even though the Americans have given the green light to install other Israeli systems in the jet. Israel wants to buy an initial batch of 25 F-35s, enough for one squadron, in fiscal 2012 and would like to acquire another 50.

The U.S. Department of Defense and Maryland-based Lockheed Martin, the prime contractor in the program, want to finalize a contract with Israel as soon as possible.

The main holdup has been the Israelis' insistence on installing their own systems -- including communications and radar -- as well as weapons aboard the F-35, as they were allowed to do with the Boeing F-15 and Lockheed Martin F-16 aircraft they have bought from the United States over the last two decades.

The Americans have been reluctant to allow that because it would compromise ultra-sensitive software codes. But a senior Pentagon official disclosed last Wednesday that the Israelis could install most of the systems they want provided they finalize a deal in the next few months.

But the official, Jon Schreiber, who heads the F-35 international program, insisted that the Israelis' electronic warfare suite, the core of their demand, could not be included -- not now, at any rate.

"Some time in the future, if policy changes, or things change, that could change as well," he said.

Other partner countries in the JSF program, such as Britain, have requested the software codes for operational sovereignty and have also been turned down.

(Excerpt) Read more at spacewar.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: avionics; dod; electronicwarfare; f35; idf; israel; jointstrikefighter; jsf; lockheedmartin; miltech
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1 posted on 11/30/2009 10:17:14 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: sonofstrangelove

This is hair splitting. Let them have the codes, the Western World needs these allies to be strong.


2 posted on 11/30/2009 10:22:29 PM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (.Member NRA))
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To: Candor7

Let them have the codes but keep a close eye.


3 posted on 11/30/2009 10:23:34 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: Candor7

Let them have the codes but keep a close eye.


4 posted on 11/30/2009 10:23:36 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: sonofstrangelove

F Them.

5 posted on 11/30/2009 10:26:41 PM PST by killjoy (Life sucks, wear a helmet.)
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To: killjoy

They might be NATO members one day and be our partners in a possible attack on Iran


6 posted on 11/30/2009 10:28:13 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Agreed, or work up a secure US replacement set of codes just for ourseles.


7 posted on 11/30/2009 10:32:01 PM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (.Member NRA))
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To: Candor7

That sounds like a good idea.


8 posted on 11/30/2009 10:32:44 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: killjoy

Who dat?


9 posted on 11/30/2009 10:33:21 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Waste and fraud are synonymous with gov't spending)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

Johnathan Pollard


10 posted on 11/30/2009 10:37:45 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin
Who dat?

Right mouse click yields the answer:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/33/Jonathan_Pollard.png

11 posted on 11/30/2009 10:38:06 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Candor7

Normally I would agree, but Israel has been entirely too willing to sell tech to the Chinese in the past.


12 posted on 11/30/2009 10:40:37 PM PST by Ronin
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To: sonofstrangelove

Does this mean they consider our E-warfare tech inferior?


13 posted on 11/30/2009 10:44:19 PM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Ronin

So did Bill Clinton,and he removed security review of such things from Commerce to Sec State.(I believe that is part of what got Sec Commerce Ron Brown killed, a .45 cal bullet hole in the top of his head in that plane crash).

Well, we will have to see what happens.There are many ways to skin this cat as you know.And many ways to work it to our advantage too.


14 posted on 11/30/2009 10:46:46 PM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (.Member NRA))
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To: Ronin

If that’s the case, then the Israelis may feel free to buy warplanes from France.


15 posted on 11/30/2009 10:52:09 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: Candor7

No argument re: Clinton. Practically the only thing Bubba didn’t give the ChiComs was the keys to Fort Knox and Chelsea’s bedroom. Although they may not have been interested in the latter.

Actually, I think the move you are talking about was taking export licensing away from State (and DOD) and giving it to commerce where Ron Brown could more easily loot it on Bubba’s behalf.

However, despite Bubba’s best efforts, there are bound to be a few secrets that he didn’t have time to sell so we should do what we can to guard those technologies.

As I said, Israel is normally a very dependable ally, but in this case, I want some stronger guarantees to make sure the secrets we give them stay secret.


16 posted on 11/30/2009 10:54:33 PM PST by Ronin
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To: sonofstrangelove; killjoy

After reading this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Pollard

I agree with killjoy.


17 posted on 11/30/2009 11:10:30 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Waste and fraud are synonymous with gov't spending)
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To: Ronin

Well the guarantees may be needed but in the end? I believe Obama will hand them to the Chinese anyway.But thats betting on a dark horse.I guess I shouldn’t do that.


18 posted on 11/30/2009 11:22:07 PM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (.Member NRA))
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To: sonofstrangelove
They might be NATO members one day and be our partners in a possible attack on Iran

F Them.

19 posted on 11/30/2009 11:22:15 PM PST by killjoy (Life sucks, wear a helmet.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
If that’s the case, then the Israelis may feel free to buy warplanes from France.

Great. Then they can sell French state secrets to the highest bidder.

20 posted on 11/30/2009 11:23:21 PM PST by killjoy (Life sucks, wear a helmet.)
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