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To: bigred08

Not a Huckabee fan, but if the guy was freed 9 years ago, I think there may be some distance between the one event and the killing of 4 cops in WA.


4 posted on 11/29/2009 8:22:56 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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The perp was supposed to serve a 60 year sentence. If it weren’t for that idiot Huckabee commuting his sentence those cops would be alive today.


8 posted on 11/29/2009 8:24:49 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Are you freaking kidding me? He was supposed to serve 60 years in Arkansas. The Huckster let him out early. He has a long history of this kinda of douchebaggery.


14 posted on 11/29/2009 8:29:14 PM PST by bigred08
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To: ClearCase_guy

He had far more than nine years to serve on his sentence. Huckleberry’s political career will never recover from this if it turns out that four cops would still be alive if he had not pardoned the man. (Another young woman in KC has already been killed by a beneficiary of a Huckleberry pardon.)


15 posted on 11/29/2009 8:29:52 PM PST by Spartan79
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To: ClearCase_guy

Sure.. I bet he was just an Outstanding citizen these past 9 years.. Wonder what he got away with that isn’t known!


23 posted on 11/29/2009 8:43:36 PM PST by divine_moment_of_facts
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Nope. The guy committed more crimes right after being let out, including crimes in Arkansas. Willie Horton, meet Mike Huckabee.


38 posted on 11/29/2009 8:54:20 PM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. ~ rintense, 2006)
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That distance evaporated within a few seconds while he was busy killing four cops in cold blood. The POS should have never been released. He has lived a life of crime, while the system, along with Huckdip failed, miserably.

If that lying RINO runs for President, I will do everything in my power to bring him down.


55 posted on 11/29/2009 9:10:57 PM PST by Gator113 (Obama is Americas First Failed Black Pres-dent.....)
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To: ClearCase_guy
“Not a Huckabee fan, but if the guy was freed 9 years ago, I think there may be some distance between the one event and the killing of 4 cops in WA.”

Huh? Think he has been a model citizen up till now?

“Clemmons’ criminal history includes at least five felony convictions in Arkansas and at least eight felony charges in Washington. The record also stands out for the number of times he has been released from custody despite questions about the danger he posed.”

Allot of people are to blame for he and others like him who escape time and time again from the punishment they deserve. Huckabee is not off the hook, nor is any other grease ball lawyer or Judge who made it easey for this guy to be on the street.

65 posted on 11/29/2009 9:46:17 PM PST by NavyCanDo
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He was given like 95 years 95 years he did 11. ok


68 posted on 11/29/2009 10:13:24 PM PST by Rj Snows
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Here is why this story is relevant:

1) First this web site is devoted to not only discussing right-of-center and conservative ideas but personalities that perhaps will be candidates in the 2012 GOP primaries. Anything that impacts any of the Big 3 whether it be Huckabee, Romney, or Palin unless it is something trivial like how many times they go to the bathroom each day is relevant.

2)When assessing who to vote for in the 2012 GOP primaries whether you like a person is highly relevant but also whether he/she has the necessary judgment or ability to perform the job as POTUS; so digging into a person’s past ‘record’ is fair game to unveil what decisions he/she made, the impact they had on their constituency/state/country and subjectively determine whether their decisions was the right ones or not to come to a conclusion whether someone is a viable presidential candidate.

3)Huckabee obviously did not pull the trigger but he allowed not only Clemmons to escape their sentence (despite protest from prosecutors in Arkansas) but other felons like Dumont as well who re-offended. If Clemmons was only an isolated incident I could see one arguing ‘the needle in the haystack’ argument but when a pattern can be shown of allowing clemency to the ‘wrong’ people then yes questioning someone’s judgment or motives for the release is highly relevant.


79 posted on 11/30/2009 5:13:08 AM PST by techno
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Look at the guys record. It appears he was born evil and lived his life as a criminal every chance he got. If Huck hadn’t let him out, this guy wouldn’t have been able to rape a child or kill these LEO. Yes, Washington State messed up also, but he’d still be sitting in jail right now had Huck not decided he knew was was best.


84 posted on 11/30/2009 5:26:51 AM PST by jennyjenny
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He was sentenced to 60 years and commuted after 11!

Huckabee has blood on his hands....no other way to say it.


87 posted on 11/30/2009 5:36:18 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Obama, Hitler, Stalin: Who are 3 people nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.)
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I compltetely disagree.

He had multiple felonies then and has continued to get them.

The only reason to free a violent felon is if there was no way that person was guilty.

The Huckster instead wanted to show how stupidly compassionate he could be.

These deaths are on his shoulders.


88 posted on 11/30/2009 5:39:26 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Hypocrisy: "Animal rightists" who eat meat & pen up pets while accusing hog farmers of cruelty.)
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FOX reported that in the meantime he also raped a child (was out on bond) and committed other crimes.
89 posted on 11/30/2009 5:39:29 AM PST by apocalypto
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Per the Seattle Times:

When Clemmons received the 60-year sentence, he was already serving 48 years on five felony convictions and facing up to 95 more years on charges of robbery, theft of property and possessing a handgun on school property. Records from Clemmons' sentencing described him as 5-foot-7 and 108 pounds. The crimes were committed when he was 17.

Clemmons served 11 years before being released.

There's quite a bit more at the link, regarding Clemmons' behavior during trial, etc., that illustrates why, by any rational standard, he was not a good candidate for release into society nine years ago, regardless of the additional mistakes made since then.

91 posted on 11/30/2009 5:41:52 AM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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Here's some of what Clemmons was up to in Arkansas...

Maurice Clemmons, man wanted for questioning, has troubling criminal history

109 posted on 11/30/2009 6:02:55 AM PST by mewzilla (Voter fraud is treason.)
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I thought he was freed due to being a black juvenile whose crime was so horrendous that he'd received a life sentence, and that Reverand Mike was all concerned about Christian forgiveness, or something.

And now four families are in mourning...

134 posted on 11/30/2009 7:40:53 AM PST by hennie pennie
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That distance is niniscule if it was one of your loved ones who got their brains blown out. Fact is, the guy had another 49 years minimum to serve on his 95 year sentence...so those four would all be alive today had Huckabee not granted clemency.

Now, since then, the guy has done plenty else and been in custody numerous times, so those instances also bear part of the burden...but the fact is, none of them would have happened had Huckabee not shown an absolutely, and IMHO, deluded, sense of compassion to such an individual, which ignored the true place that the compassion needed to be directed...and that was at the victims he had already injured and the potential victims he would injure if he was set free.

154 posted on 11/30/2009 8:44:22 AM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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Huck should not be president for MANY MANY REASONS.. granted Clemency for this turdbucket is way down on that list.


163 posted on 11/30/2009 10:00:39 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: ClearCase_guy
Not a Huckabee fan, but if the guy was freed 9 years ago, I think there may be some distance between the one event and the killing of 4 cops in WA.

According to stories dating back for years, Huckabee was reckless in who he granted clemency to.

This story, from the Arkansas Leader, is from 2004:

Huckabee, prosecutors go on offensive (^)

Several prosecutors around the state are upset with Gov. Huckabee for grant- ing clemency to violent criminals, but he is blaming the prosecutors for often not seeking the maximum penalty and keeping felons locked up longer.

Maurice Clemmons is mentioned in this article, btw, held up as an example of Huckabee's reckless disregard for public safety and the rule of law.

During his trial and after he was convicted in Arkansas, he developed a pattern of threatening law enforcement officers. Huckabee still set him free.

STATE of Arkansas v. Maurice CLEMMONS (^)

Do a search for the word "threat" (no quotes) on that page and prepare to be shocked that his animal was ever released.

The blood of four police officers is on Mike Huckabee's hands.

172 posted on 11/30/2009 11:22:21 AM PST by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney: Would you buy a used car from this huckster?)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Not a Huckabee fan, but if the guy was freed 9 years ago, I think there may be some distance between the one event and the killing of 4 cops in WA.

Yeah, the distance is 9 years. A distinction probably lost on the cops' families.

There's a reason violent criminals are put away for life, or executed.

Two strikes and you're out. The Huskster is through for good.

177 posted on 11/30/2009 11:44:19 AM PST by keat
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