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Climate change data dumped!!!!!!!!
Times Online (UK) ^ | November 29, 2009 | Jonathan Leake, Environment Editor

Posted on 11/29/2009 7:58:10 AM PST by joinedafterattack

SCIENTISTS at the University of East Anglia (UEA) have admitted throwing away much of the raw temperature data on which their predictions of global warming are based.

It means that other academics are not able to check basic calculations said to show a long-term rise in temperature over the past 150 years.

The UEA’s Climatic Research Unit (CRU) was forced to reveal the loss following requests for the data under Freedom of Information legislation.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climatechangedata; climategate; datadump; democrat; fraud; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; goregate; hadleycru; hidethedecline; obama; shredders; smokinggun; smokingun
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Jones was not in charge of the CRU when the data were thrown away in the 1980s, a time when climate change was seen as a less pressing issue.

A terabyte of disk space in the 80’s when the data was supposedly tossed would have cost (maybe hundreds of) thousands of dollars.

Back then the disk you would have been talking about for storage most likely would have been floppies.

61 posted on 11/29/2009 9:00:52 AM PST by Pontiac
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To: Erasmus
.... the 1980s, a time when climate change was seen as a less pressing issue. not yet the basis of an enormous political agenda.

Fixed it.

62 posted on 11/29/2009 9:01:29 AM PST by denydenydeny (The Left sees taxpayers the way Dr Frankenstein saw the local cemetery; raw material for experiments)
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To: Pontiac
" How was this peer reviewed with out the peer having access to the raw data."

It can't, they're lying, plain and simple.

63 posted on 11/29/2009 9:01:38 AM PST by WHBates
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To: My Favorite Headache

I seem to remember that these clowns wanted Nuremberg-style trials for “deniers.” I think the same is justified for “pretend scientists”.....

hh


64 posted on 11/29/2009 9:01:59 AM PST by hoosier hick (Note to RINOs: We need a choice, not an echo....Barry Goldwater)
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To: joinedafterattack

This story was first reported last summer (to my knowledge), but the email revelations give it more context and meaning...

hh


65 posted on 11/29/2009 9:03:22 AM PST by hoosier hick (Note to RINOs: We need a choice, not an echo....Barry Goldwater)
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To: Errant
I am not defending the guy. What I am telling you is that what you are talking about is not as cheap as you imply. If you can’t get funding to do it you can’t do it.

What would have been a lot cheaper to do is to rent warehouse space to store his files and tapes. For a hundred bucks a month he should have been able to get climate controlled storage space somewhere.

66 posted on 11/29/2009 9:06:52 AM PST by Pontiac
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To: EGPWS
Trust me, trust me...
67 posted on 11/29/2009 9:06:58 AM PST by danielmryan
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To: joinedafterattack

Prosecute,,make these guys sweat under the fear of a long prison sentence...one of them will break and rat out the others.


68 posted on 11/29/2009 9:07:34 AM PST by joelt
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To: joinedafterattack

SCIENTIFIC MISCONDUCT OF THE FIRST ORDER.

ONE NEVER DESTROYS ORIGINAL DATA.

PURPOSEFUL MISCONDUCT ...


69 posted on 11/29/2009 9:10:24 AM PST by dodger
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To: joinedafterattack

Needs more exclamation marks.


70 posted on 11/29/2009 9:11:30 AM PST by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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To: Pontiac
I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill...

this dog.

71 posted on 11/29/2009 9:11:54 AM PST by Erasmus (Sid's oxymorons: Postmodern Intellectualism.)
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To: joinedafterattack

Time to move these people on to “cold fusion” to solve the energy crisis.</Sarc>


72 posted on 11/29/2009 9:12:03 AM PST by Calamari (Pass enough laws and everyone is guilty of something.)
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To: Pontiac
"What I am telling you is that what you are talking about is not as cheap as you imply."

Yea, I keep forgetting this is academia.

I like the suggestion above to put everything concerning GW on hold until the data can be reproduced then I bet somehow the raw data mysteriously appears.

73 posted on 11/29/2009 9:15:24 AM PST by Errant (`)
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To: hoosier hick

I’m thinking the Brits need to do something. I think elections are on the horizon there so the Conservatives need to make it an issue. Brown is not going have any curiosity about this unless forced.


74 posted on 11/29/2009 9:15:24 AM PST by joelt
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To: joelt

If the primary data was thrown out, then this is not science. If you can’t verify results, and the data presented are significantly altered/filtered, then you can’t trust the data. It’s that simple. This is even more compelling when you are sitting on emails that talk about dumping data rather than releasing it.

Also, did the primary sources of all this data dump it (i.e. the specific stations at which the measurements were taken)? If not the raw data should be retrievable.

Given the economic implications of all this there should be a massive investigation.


75 posted on 11/29/2009 9:17:11 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: joinedafterattack

Manbearpig could not be reached for comment.......


76 posted on 11/29/2009 9:17:30 AM PST by GQuagmire ( Driving a Prius doesn't make you Jesus Christ)
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To: joinedafterattack

But, that raw temperature data was probably shared by more than the UEA. They’re not the only ones tracking global temperatures.


77 posted on 11/29/2009 9:18:18 AM PST by TheThinker
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To: joinedafterattack
"SCIENTISTS

No; grifters, con men, snake oil salesmen, bunko artists, frauds, leeches, thieves, etc. Not Scientists

78 posted on 11/29/2009 9:19:27 AM PST by Calamari (Pass enough laws and everyone is guilty of something.)
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To: Calamari; joinedafterattack
No; grifters, con men, snake oil salesmen, bunko artists, frauds, leeches, thieves, etc. Not Scientists

Extortionists!

79 posted on 11/29/2009 9:23:19 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: InterceptPoint

Now past 13,000,000 hits and climbing..


80 posted on 11/29/2009 9:24:15 AM PST by ExtremeUnction
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