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Dangers of an Overheated China (unsustainable production by political imperative)
NYT ^ | 11/29/09 | TYLER COWEN

Posted on 11/29/2009 5:18:10 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster

November 29, 2009

ECONOMIC VIEW

Dangers of an Overheated China

By TYLER COWEN

PRESIDENT OBAMA’S recent trip to China reflects a symbiotic relationship at the heart of the global economy: China uses American spending power to enlarge its private sector, while America uses Chinese lending power to expand its public sector. Yet this arrangement may unravel in a dangerous way, and if it does, the most likely culprit will be Chinese economic overcapacity.

Several hundred million Chinese peasants have moved from the countryside to the cities over the last 30 years, in one of the largest, most rapid migrations in history.

To help make this work, the Chinese government has subsidized its exporters by pegging the renminbi at an unnaturally low rate to the dollar. This has supported relatively high-paying export jobs; additional subsidies have included direct credit allocation and preferential treatment for coastal enterprises.

These aren’t the recommended policies you would find in a basic economics text, but it’s hard to argue with success. Most important, it has given many more Chinese a stake in the future of their society.

Those same subsidies, however, have spurred excess capacity and created a dangerous political dynamic in which these investments have to be propped up at all cost.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; economics; economy; employment; overcapacity; trade
One-way trip to hell?
1 posted on 11/29/2009 5:18:11 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; PAR35; AndyJackson; Thane_Banquo; nicksaunt; MadLibDisease; happygrl; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 11/29/2009 5:18:52 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Death to Neo-fascist China!


3 posted on 11/29/2009 5:31:37 AM PST by Wiz
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Only a dead Communist is a good one :)


4 posted on 11/29/2009 5:32:18 AM PST by Wiz
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The author didn’t mention monetary policy or carry trade. The NYT will learn about that in a few years after a couple more unwinds like 2008. Each time we do this there is less sustainable economic activity and more oversupply and distortions into sectors that are easy to lend into. The author mentions the office building boom in Shanghai. That’s from carry trade, the money is borrowed cheaply here, invested in Aussie dollars which flood the high end lending market in China.


5 posted on 11/29/2009 5:36:28 AM PST by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: palmer
Yes, U.S. currently exports inflation to the world. China included. Chinese themselves do this with stimulus money from their government as well. They get two major sources.
6 posted on 11/29/2009 5:40:35 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

bttt


7 posted on 11/29/2009 5:58:08 AM PST by dennisw (Obama -- our very own loopy, leftist god-thing.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; Impy; ExTexasRedhead

It’s easy to condemn China, and there are many good reasons to do so. The thing to remember is that China, along with Japan, has been propping up our economy by buying American currency so that we can continue to buy their exports, reducing the impact of deficit spending. If that stops, the consequences to the U.S. could be dire.


8 posted on 11/29/2009 7:54:44 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (Liberal sacred cows make great hamburger)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Well, this is a built-in systemic risk from the start. Once one side of the equation(demand) breaks down, the other side is bound to follow. In a time lag. We are just injecting too much hope into assessing China's situation. Hence, one of the popular wishes that China would do OK so that U.S. won't suffer too much pain.

Unfortunately, U.S. in economic crisis means, from now on, China would exacerbate its own pathology as well. To the point of breakdown, just as U.S. did. Chinese economy is a pathology hitching the ride on the pathology of U.S.'s.

9 posted on 11/29/2009 12:52:47 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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Thanks for the ping, nothing to add. Just trying to learn.


10 posted on 11/29/2009 2:29:27 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

...good post with reasoning considerations.


11 posted on 11/29/2009 7:22:18 PM PST by familyop (blackhawk in .45 colt, lil'gun, magnum primers, hardcast 280 gr. wfn @ 1200 fps)
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