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New Electrification Coalition Calls for 75% EV Proliferation by 2040
Futurecars.com ^ | November 16th | Aaron T

Posted on 11/29/2009 2:52:11 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing

In brief: This new coalition of members of the electric vehicle community, infrastructure, and more proclaim that the U.S. needs to have 75% of its light-duty vehicle miles go electric by 2040.

They officially released their report titled Electrification Roadmap, which outlines a vision for the deployment of EVs and infrastructure on a national scale.

Members of the coalition include GridPoint, INc., Coda Automotive, Nissan Motor Company, Johnson Controls, FedEx, and A123 Systems. Everyone in the coalition produces vehicles, infrastructure, or components for the EV industry.

That 75% goal would mean 200 million cars being replaced by electrics in only 30 years.

So the Coalition calls upon federal initiatives to mandate and fund this massive altering of the infrastructure and highway usage.

The self-interest of the coalition is obvious, but there is a question that should also be asked:

Why is government always the answer?

(Excerpt) Read more at futurecars.com ...


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KEYWORDS: carlosghosn; electricvehicles; electrification; evs; fedex; nissan
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To: Nuc1
Not aware of any breakthroughs. If you have new information could you outline some of it? Last I read nano-tube and capacitor storage tech was imminent. As I recall some of the capacitor storage companies had applied for patents. Since then crickets.

Those are the technologies. My understanding is supercapacitors have matured sufficiently to be available commercially. The nano-tech batteries are in late stage testing. As either currently exist, they won't be suitable for widespread EV use anytime soon but a storage system comprising a supercapacitor and nano-battery will greatly improve the performance of hybrid vehicles.

41 posted on 11/29/2009 6:45:08 AM PST by fso301
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To: chimera
I point these things out all the time to the "renewables are enough" people and now they have a new mantra. Two words: Smart Grid.

We have incessant commercials for smart grid. They are IBM commercials so you know they see a bonanza in those huge networks of electrical usage monitors and controls. I like how these clones copy 0bama's mantra of doing things "smarter" What a bunch of money grubbing phonies. That moron Hillary also claimed she would have a "smart" foreign policy.....but instead she FUBARED all kinds of simple things same as 0bongo FUBARED bowing to the Nippon Emperor. All phony baloney rhetoric and self promotion

42 posted on 11/29/2009 6:49:11 AM PST by dennisw (Obama -- our very own loopy, leftist god-thing.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

your car can be ...

grid free
raghead/oil-company free

pick one


43 posted on 11/29/2009 7:09:48 AM PST by element92
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To: Little Ray
Boy, I can wait to see one of those “ultracapacitors” short out, say, in traffic accident. Hopefully, from several hundred yards away.

How will that be any different from a hybrid in an accident today?

44 posted on 11/29/2009 7:14:47 AM PST by fso301
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To: Nuc1
Still as an old drag racing buff there is something really sweet about the sound of a big inch V8 spinning up 8000 rpm.

EV's can kick but in drag races and truck/tractor pulls. http://www.designnews.com/article/277418-Drag_Racing_Goes_Electric.php

45 posted on 11/29/2009 7:24:13 AM PST by fso301
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To: Ole Okie

increase the voltage as well. IT takes half the time in Australia to charge the same battery in US


46 posted on 11/29/2009 7:30:53 AM PST by 4rcane
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To: BBell

I’ve only just begun digitizing them. I haven’t posted any yet.


47 posted on 11/29/2009 7:56:45 AM PST by Yankee (Welcome to Obama's Fourth Reich.)
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To: dennisw
My answer to the smart gridders is the same as that to the conservers: you still need a source of electricity to be smart with or conserve. All the smarts and conserving in the world doesn't generate a single watt-hour of juice.

These people are so stupid. When you ask them where electricity comes from they say it comes out of the wall (socket). They think food comes from grocery stores and gasoline from the pumps down at the filling station. They're in the same league as those parasites standing in line for Obama Bucks. Remember that one? The reporter asked them where the money they were being given came from and they said "Obama". When he asked where Obama got the money to give them, they said "from his stash".

If any good comes out of the impending societal collapse it's that 95% of these leeches won't survive. They won't know how to grow food, fire a rifle, or even find potable water.

48 posted on 11/29/2009 8:07:05 AM PST by chimera
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To: sig226

That baby burned coal. Between 10-11 tons of Wyoming bituminous per hour, from Union Pacific’s own mines at Hannah and Rock Springs, when working at full capacity.

Wood burners went out with “Petticoat Junction”. (late 1800s)


49 posted on 11/29/2009 8:19:57 AM PST by Yankee (Welcome to Obama's Fourth Reich.)
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To: Yankee

My apologies to Wyoming Freepers, there’s no second “h” in Hanna, WY.


50 posted on 11/29/2009 8:27:58 AM PST by Yankee (Welcome to Obama's Fourth Reich.)
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To: Yankee

EXcellent Ive Got it.

LISTEN UP!

Everyone get a electric car. Then you put a giant diesel motor generator set in your back yard to charge it every night.

Problem solved, lets move on to globull warming.


51 posted on 11/29/2009 8:39:11 AM PST by ully2 (ully)
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To: ully2
If it's all the same to you, I'll use a coal-fired locomotive boiler to power a steam turbine driven electric generator.

This way I can blow the whistle and ring the bell.

(See what happens when you lace your morning coffee with Jack Daniels?)

52 posted on 11/29/2009 8:46:39 AM PST by Yankee (Welcome to Obama's Fourth Reich.)
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To: fso301
Thanks Freeper Friend. Next couple of years should be interesting.
53 posted on 11/29/2009 9:08:19 AM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: fso301
I know. Electric motors provide top notch low end torque, provided the wiring and controllers can provide maximum inrush current. And a good electric motor whine is not unpleasing to the ears...still V8s spinning up 8Gs are REALLY SWEET.
54 posted on 11/29/2009 9:14:07 AM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: fso301

Different storage medium. Try shorting out a battery, then try shorting out a capacitor with the same number of joules in it.

On second, hand, DON’T try that...


55 posted on 11/29/2009 10:06:06 AM PST by Little Ray (The beatings will continue until GOP comes to heel.)
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To: Nuc1

“Still as an old drag racing buff there is something really sweet about the sound of a big inch V8 spinning up 8000 rpm.”

Electric yields maximum torque immediately, which is reportedly neck snapping fun.

Vehicle builders are studying adding sound, for safety sake and for fun.

So you may soon see electrics go zero to 60 in 3 seconds flat, with your choice of soundtracks.


56 posted on 11/29/2009 10:36:38 AM PST by truth_seeker
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To: Nuc1
Thanks Freeper Friend. Next couple of years should be interesting.

Sure will be. There's plenty of stuff out on the internet about EV dragsters to keep one busy for some time.

As you read from the linked article, these new generation batteries appear to be in late stages of manufacturer testing prior to general availability. They aren't the final objective but do represent a big leap forward.

I know. Electric motors provide top notch low end torque, provided the wiring and controllers can provide maximum inrush current. And a good electric motor whine is not unpleasing to the ears...still V8s spinning up 8Gs are REALLY SWEET.

I can't imagine anything ever being able to replace the sound or feel of a large internal combustion engine. For that reason, I doubt large crowds will ever gather to watch the EV equivalent of a top fuel, NASCAR, Indy race or even a truck/tractor pull.

57 posted on 11/29/2009 11:50:00 AM PST by fso301
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To: truth_seeker; Nuc1
Vehicle builders are studying adding sound, for safety sake and for fun.

The safety part I'm ok with but the prospect of user customizable sounds similar to cellphone ringtones is neither pleasant to ponder nor would it be safe as safety will require a relatively narrow range of sounds that anyone with hearing will be able to recognize as an EV.

That having been said, imagine the noise reduction in cities and along roadways once large scale EV use sets in.

So you may soon see electrics go zero to 60 in 3 seconds flat, with your choice of soundtracks.

They already do that. Here's an electric motorcycle that does a sub 1 second 0 - 60 mph

While not in most peoples price range, the production Tesla Roadster does a 3.7 second 0 - 60 mph.

58 posted on 11/29/2009 12:18:20 PM PST by fso301
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To: truth_seeker
Check out the link in 45. When you do remember, I think I can put you in the 10 second bracket in a Pinto for <$10K. Still, the new stuff is fun to work with and develop. The battery comment was interesting. It reminds me of the compromises we have to make with internal combustion engines between power and mileage/drive-ability.
59 posted on 11/29/2009 2:24:30 PM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: fso301
I can't imagine anything ever being able to replace the sound or feel of a large internal combustion engine. For that reason, I doubt large crowds will ever gather to watch the EV equivalent of a top fuel, NASCAR, Indy race or even a truck/tractor pull.

Sure they will. Make the technology accessible to the kids and keep the prices reasonable. Going fast and the competition will take care of the rest.

60 posted on 11/29/2009 2:35:42 PM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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