[mbarker12474]

Note the historical movement of Methodist episcopacy political opinion. Tooley says the "dwindling flock no longer seriously heeds their political posturing." I say the dwindling flock trends a bit conservative, but these conservatives are largely ignorant of their membership in and support for what is now an apostate political advocacy organization. The flock also trends toward the mushy lukewarm theological middle.

The flock does not ignore the posturing of the radical denomination, the flock is instead oblivious to this posturing, and deliberately, consciously, wants to remain that way.

The UMC doesn't incorage scripture reading, the clergy preaches very little from scripture, and the flock relies on its own reasoning, rather than God's word, for its understanding of truth. They are lukewarm, and in serious jeopardy of being vomited out of Christ's mouth.

[reagan_fanatic]

False prophets and ignorant, self-serving fools who have strayed so far from the gospel of Jesus Christ and the God of Abraham that it is difficult to see how they could ever find their way back.

[Rum Tum Tugger]

In 1980, I discovered that the UMC is not a church at all. It is an ultra, left-wing political party which has fooled most of its members into believing that it is a church.

However, its members should share much of the blame because most members think the UMC is a social club.

In any event, as soon as I realized what the UMC really is, I left it and became a Roman Catholic just as fast as I could. I like a church that doesn't take a vote every four years to see what it should believe today.

[RoadTest]

John and Charles Wesley would denounce and disown this bunch of poseurs.

[pepsionice]

My cousin ended up getting recruited (mostly for her liberal beliefs and persuasion) to be a minister for the UMC. She got a complete tuition deal and was fully accredited by these guys.

Her background in Biblical studies? Barely worth noting. They tend to do a lot of philosophical debates and work closely on social issues mostly. If you look at the typical membership now...it’s entirely middle and lower-class families...those on the borderline of poverty. You almost get the impression of a recruitment wing for some liberal group.

I don’t want to dump on the church...but they aren’t exactly being honest in their words or actions.

[LibLieSlayer]

MY family have been Methodist for generations... we are no longer Methodists... but we are and have always been Christians. NOTHING will ever change that. We cannot in good faith, give money to evil people and their evil organization.

LLS

[vanilla swirl]

“They are lukewarm, and in serious jeopardy of being vomited out of Christ’s mouth. “

Amen!
I was raised in the Methodist church and don’t have a problem with the theology but you are right. The leadership have become apostate, the sheeple in the pews are so stupid and passive they will follow anybody. This is true mostly in the northern Methodist churches. I think there is a remnant in the south that are still followers of Christ.

[Dixie Yooper]

Did they also make a statement about merging with the Unitarian Church? It’s bound to happen sooner or later.

[Rappini]

There is only one word that applies to Afstan, Victory.

[BuffaloJack]

These people are nuts, however, since Obama won’t let our troops return fire, we should get them out of there as fast as possible and just switch to carpet bombing from 70,000 feet.