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Free Republic does not and will not support RINOS!! Not now!! Not ever!!
My day after Thanksgiving message | 11/26/200 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/26/2009 9:55:25 PM PST by Jim Robinson

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To: Cedric
Is it your contention that Scozzafava is AS bad as Obama?

It is my contention that she could well be. The enemy within, and all that...

641 posted on 11/27/2009 9:38:16 AM PST by bcsco (Hey, GOP: The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration...)
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To: hiredhand

“I’ve read every post in this thread so far and you represent a singular MINORITY.”

Exactly. My only point, and one that I suspect may get me banned after nearly a decade of membership, is that I am a conservative who dissents on this occasion from the majority view.

I believe that there are tens or even hundreds of thousands of others who depend upon this site, as posters or lurkers, who don’t buy into every aspect of the conservative bedrock. I defer to Jim Robinson as to whether he wants to turn them away to the dozens of other sites that are every bit as conservative but in my opinion not as good and not with the potential that FR has to influence public opinion.

I dissent to his original post, which is my prerogative. If Jim Robinson intends to stifle dissent on this site, which seems to me what he is saying, then of course that is his prerogative. But he should be a big enough person to make his reasons clear; and he should do everyone a service and be less vague than in his original post regarding the nature of dissent that he will and won’t abide.

I really don’t think he wants to become a thought policeman, though, and I will be disappointed if he takes that line.


642 posted on 11/27/2009 9:38:32 AM PST by drellberg
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To: drellberg

Sean Hannity? I turned him off back when he started pimping for Giuliani. Take him off the list. He shouldn’t be there.


643 posted on 11/27/2009 9:38:33 AM PST by hiredhand (Understand the CRA and why we're facing economic collapse - see my about page.)
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To: hiredhand

“Sean Hannity? I turned him off back when he started pimping for Giuliani. Take him off the list. He shouldn’t be there.”

It’s Jim Robinson’s list from the front page of FR. LOL

Thanks for proving my point.


644 posted on 11/27/2009 9:40:41 AM PST by drellberg
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To: Cedric
And the story of 2009 is the impressive solidarity the Republicans are showing against Obamas agenda.

And just how much of that is due to their reading the tea leaves of Tea Party opposition, and of conservatives like ourselves, that tell them that their tenure is very insecure?

Just how much of that is due to overt fear over their reelection, for being RINOs in the first place?

645 posted on 11/27/2009 9:42:38 AM PST by bcsco (Hey, GOP: The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration...)
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To: Jim Robinson

The idea that taking a moderate position and electing Rinos advances conservatism is ludicrous.

Let them start their own damn forums and take their muddled mushy minions&mindsets with them .. yet we are told again and again,, we need them to win.

The ugly truth, They are the reason we have lost so many elections the last few cycles. Their rudders are warped and they have sent us into the weeds repeatedly, and they know who they are. A few of them are gone and many more will follow the next few cycles. Good.


646 posted on 11/27/2009 9:42:44 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
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To: hiredhand

Well said HH !!

I agree....


647 posted on 11/27/2009 9:45:03 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: jveritas

JVeritas, on the surface that sounds reasoned. Then you realize you could make the same exact statement about McCain.

I believe there are core issues that can be addressed in the most leftist of states, that will win the support of people across the spectrum.

Ronald Reagan did it. I think we sell these states short. I think we sell ourselves short if we don’t put up quality people who represent Conservatism. If we wish to sell our brand, we need to put it out there in public at the top levels. If we don’t, we’ll never win converts, and turn these states around.

I don’t believe in surrender. I’m not saying that’s what you’re about here either. I certainly do believe it’s what the party is about.


648 posted on 11/27/2009 9:45:53 AM PST by DoughtyOne (A MELTING POT not a potters wheel. Join us. Don't try to turn this nation into the one you fled.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Palin will not run for president in 2012.


649 posted on 11/27/2009 9:46:04 AM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: Jim Robinson

650 posted on 11/27/2009 9:46:22 AM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: bcsco
Don’t know.

But, if we’re gonna beat the hell out of them when they misbehave, doesn’t it just make good sense to praise or at least acknowledge their good behavior?

651 posted on 11/27/2009 9:47:24 AM PST by Cedric
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To: St. Louis Conservative

She told you that? Wow.


652 posted on 11/27/2009 9:47:49 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Cedric doesn't understand the difference between totalitarianism and OWNERSHIP. From the content of his postings, it appears as though he lacks a fundamental grasp of certain concepts that have continually caused him grief during his tenure here.

I know it's considered poor form and just plain rude here to post about somebody without notifying the person. But many of us have Cedric on a "Do Not Communicate With" list. Communicating with him and others like him is futile and frustrating. I hope he gets caught in the next FR Bug Zap.
653 posted on 11/27/2009 9:48:22 AM PST by hiredhand (Understand the CRA and why we're facing economic collapse - see my about page.)
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To: ejonesie22
Now the only thing to deal with is the fact even if Obama does nothing from here on out we are still 3 years out from any meaningful leadership.

3 years is hopeful. If the GOP doesn't coalesce around a leader with strong conservative credentials, the election will still be a tossup. Keep in mind the criminal's intention on the amnesty issue. The criminal and the rest of the Democrats know how public opinion is going against them. The amnesty issue is being seen as a trump card to be played.

654 posted on 11/27/2009 9:48:22 AM PST by bcsco (Hey, GOP: The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration...)
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To: paulycy

“I’ll post elsewhere if I feel politically evangelistic, which I seldom do. I like strategizing victory with fellow warriors and not converting the ignorant or disinterested. I do that enough already.”

I appreciate your thoughtful response, and I am grateful. As you can tell, I feel passionately that JR is taking too strong a position in his post; and yet I feel that I have ceded from the outset that his position is defensible. It all depends upon the type of site he wants.

I just think that to turn folks away who hunger for what is available here is a huge, huge mistake.

I say this from personal experience. I don’t always buy the conservative line. I sometimes post my disagreements. I get trashed by most people; and sometimes a temperate voice explains to me why I may be wrong. As often as not, I end up coming around to the temperate argument. I think FR is a great vehicle for discussion and for evangelism.

I am merely sad that JR seems to be empowering the screamers and turning away the temperate (but more impactful) voices.

I question tactics, not principles.


655 posted on 11/27/2009 9:48:49 AM PST by drellberg
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To: Jim Robinson

656 posted on 11/27/2009 9:49:11 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (http://www.conservatives4palin.com/)
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To: hiredhand; Darksheare
Golly, that's what Darksheare said. LOL

It can be fun to bat them around. :-)

657 posted on 11/27/2009 9:50:30 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: drellberg
Point taken and I appreciate you expressing your thoughts in a civil and thoughtful manner! If anybody on the other side (to which we were referencing) has a change of heart, I'm certain that folks like yourself could have a lot to do with it, and that in my humble opinion is valuable.
658 posted on 11/27/2009 9:51:17 AM PST by hiredhand (Understand the CRA and why we're facing economic collapse - see my about page.)
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To: hiredhand

Cedric understands all things.

Cedric feels no grief.


659 posted on 11/27/2009 9:51:24 AM PST by Cedric
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To: drellberg

...crap...walked into that one I did! :-) LOL!


660 posted on 11/27/2009 9:52:13 AM PST by hiredhand (Understand the CRA and why we're facing economic collapse - see my about page.)
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