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Climate czar rejects doctored data claims
Washington Times ^ | Nov 26, 2009 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 11/26/2009 7:36:22 AM PST by XHogPilot

Obama administration climate czar Carol Browner on Wednesday rejected claims that e-mails stolen from a British university show that climate scientists trumped up global-warming numbers, saying she considers the science settled.

"I'm sticking with the 2,500 scientists. These people have been studying this issue for a very long time and agree this problem is real," said Ms. Browner, whom President Obama has tapped as his chief of policy on global warming.

The e-mails were hacked from the Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia and have come to light over the past week. They appear to show scientists saying they've smoothed over data that doesn't back up their claims of warming, and pondering how to freeze out scientists who disagree with them.

Release of the e-mails has energized skeptics ahead of next month's major global warming meeting in Copenhagen, which is supposed to set the framework for a new global treaty to restrict greenhouse gas emissions.

The White House said Wednesday that Mr. Obama will personally travel to Copenhagen to commit the U.S. to greenhouse gas reductions.

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Ms. Browner said the only people who still doubt global warming is happening and that humans are to blame are "a very small group of people who continue to say this isn't a real problem, that we don't need to do anything."

She also said the e-mails are only trickling out, and that the entire set hasn't been released.

Ms. Browner initially shrugged when asked about the e-mails, saying she didn't have a reaction. But when a reporter followed up, she said she will stick with the consensus of the 2,500 climate scientists on the International Panel on Climate Change who concluded global warming is occurring and is most likely being pushed by human actions.

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KEYWORDS: bho44; bhoczars; bhoenvironment; browner; climatechangedata; climategate; globalwarming
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To: muawiyah

“People who believe in the 2500 scientists story are the TRUE BELIEVERS of the age”

Whenever I hear this “2500 scientists” crap from people I know and people I work with (most of whom are scientists) I reply “Name 5 of them”.

Most can’t name two.

Moreover, a significant fraction of those “2500 scientists” associated with the IPCC are government bureaucrats from government agencies associated with climate concerns; others may be actual scientists, but they’re from countries on the order of Gambia, who are only too happy to get a ticket to cool places like Kyoto and Copenhagen.

An appeal to “2500 scientists” isn’t an argument - it’s a strategy to avoid an argument. And if you’re Algore or Browner, and you don’t know shiite about science, that’s probably an understandable approach.


21 posted on 11/26/2009 7:50:52 AM PST by Stosh
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To: neverdem; narses; xcamel; steelyourfaith; muawiyah
It’s a religion based on a political “feel good” philosophy of unreal, fairies and tree-hugging Gaiea anti-Western illogic:

But the sad fact is: these international socialist “True AGW Believers” are more fervent in their communist-inspired “faith” that man is destroying the planet by merely “being here” than the capitalists and Christians they fervently hate believe in “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness”.

To coin a phrase.

22 posted on 11/26/2009 7:51:41 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"... who used flawed base data? Ms Greener is a fool."

The longer they remain in denial the bigger fools them become.

23 posted on 11/26/2009 7:52:33 AM PST by manic4organic (Obama shot hoops, America lost troops.)
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To: XHogPilot

The logical fallacy of appealing to authority, but even that is meaningless because these “2,500 scientists” are some of those in these emails covering and altering data.


24 posted on 11/26/2009 7:53:34 AM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: lacrew
‘She also said the e-mails are only trickling out, and that the entire set hasn’t been released'

That's bull and an out and out lie. The entire data set is out there for download. I've downloaded it. Its just taking people a while to go through it all...but its all been released.

25 posted on 11/26/2009 7:53:49 AM PST by NELSON111
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To: reefdiver
But slashing carbon dioxide emissions could save millions of lives, mostly by reducing preventable deaths from heart and lung diseases, according to studies published this week in the British medical journal Lancet

Huh??

The warmists must know they are in big trouble if they are suddenly going to begin claiming that CO2 causes heart disease and lung disease. Their own data shows that the gas does not cause runaway greenhouse heating, so they've got to find some other dire disaster scenario for this harmless, inert, colorless and odorless gas. And who can possibly be against stopping these two well-known killers that directly affect most of our families?
26 posted on 11/26/2009 7:53:59 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Stosh

These people are letting those Cap and Trade tax, Dollar signs in their eyes, close their minds.


27 posted on 11/26/2009 7:54:00 AM PST by Venturer
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To: XHogPilot

This whole scheme is a huge money ponzi scheme and many people have and will stand to get rich rich rich. The politicians nursing at the nipple of those rich benefactors and the idiotic rich celebrities stand to lose a lot. This is really so appropriate for all these people to be exposed as the frauds they really are but they can’t afford to fold willfully. They will try to perpetuate the lie that they have staked their claims on. I find myself thinking that God will not be mocked.


28 posted on 11/26/2009 7:54:33 AM PST by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: XHogPilot

Browner: “The fact that the data about Globull Warming was made up, merely makes me believe it HARDER!”


29 posted on 11/26/2009 7:55:10 AM PST by Lazamataz (DEFINITION: rac-ist (rA'sis't) 1. Anyone who disagrees with a liberal about any topic.)
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To: XHogPilot

The goal of the Fascicratic party is to reduce the world population by 5 billion and make the rest so poor they can never do anything again.


30 posted on 11/26/2009 7:55:35 AM PST by depressed in 06 (ZerOcare: Bureaucratic best practices equals death panels.)
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To: XHogPilot

They don’t call her czar for nothing.


31 posted on 11/26/2009 7:57:13 AM PST by onedoug
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To: XHogPilot

I can never post what I really want to say because I am afraid these political arrogant f* pigs will track me down and destroy my life.


32 posted on 11/26/2009 7:57:46 AM PST by Porterville ( I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubble gum)
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To: XHogPilot


33 posted on 11/26/2009 7:57:57 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: reefdiver

“But slashing carbon dioxide emissions could save millions of lives, mostly by reducing preventable deaths from heart and lung diseases,.....” - Carol Browner, Idiot in Charge

Now, for some facts.

From Wikipedia.... (I know, I know)

Carbon dioxide is used by plants during photosynthesis to make sugars, which may either be consumed in respiration or used as the raw material to produce other organic compounds needed for plant growth and development.

From ScienceDaily.....

ScienceDaily (Apr. 23, 2009) — Plants absorbed carbon dioxide more efficiently under the polluted skies of recent decades than they would have done in a cleaner atmosphere, according to new findings published this week in Nature.

From Merck Online Medical......

The primary function of the respiratory system is to exchange oxygen and carbon dioxide. Inhaled oxygen enters the lungs and reaches the alveoli. The layers of cells lining the alveoli and the surrounding capillaries are each only one cell thick and are in very close contact with each other. This barrier between air and blood averages about 1 micron (1/10,000 of a centimeter) in thickness. Oxygen passes quickly through this air-blood barrier into the blood in the capillaries. Similarly, carbon dioxide passes from the blood into the alveoli and is then exhaled.

I want someone to show me where MILLIONS of deaths are attributed to increased levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.


34 posted on 11/26/2009 7:58:24 AM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: XHogPilot

Not in denial, just following the party line which is written by a hard core left of America haters.

In one of the video segments of the “Global Warming Swindle”, one of the commentators connects the dots of what happened to the vast Soviet propaganda machine of thousands and thousands of journalists and media controllers and infiltrators. The segment shows clips of people in this machine, its size, that it existed post-Soviet collapse without direction in disarray until a leadership emerged to direct these people to “Global Warming” and control of industry through climate regulation.

This is in my view not a hollow conspiracy stemming from paranoid thinking but rather an accurate inference of what happened to the old Soviet propaganda arm, a media organization trained in subversion and distortion of the truth.

We have just witnessed it and will oontinue to witness a centralized response to the expose of the CRU.

Unfortunately, the person in the office of the presidency is part of machine.

I wrote this and I believe it, because any rational leader who believes there are questions raised by this release of documents would call for investigation of this matter, and yet the actual response is entirely predictable only if the leadership is following an agenda of global control and taxation.


35 posted on 11/26/2009 7:58:59 AM PST by Hostage
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To: XHogPilot; Nachum; 70th Division; ZULU; exit82; ncfool; No Surrender No Retreat; Free ThinkerNY; ...

Joseph Goebbels lives to serve again. The mindless masses thrive in the DemoRAT party.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nalP2eUADTQ

Some never learn.


36 posted on 11/26/2009 7:59:05 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead (clean the sewer in 2010 and 2012)
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To: silverleaf

IMO this is the result of letting the communists take over our universities.


37 posted on 11/26/2009 8:00:48 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: XHogPilot
Google searching "CRU" returns a story about the scandal on every link on the first page.

Doing a search on "global warming" returns a story about the CRU emails on the first unpaid link at the top.

The grounds shifting underneath you Browner, I hope you get buried just like in the movie "2012".


38 posted on 11/26/2009 8:01:23 AM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: XHogPilot
The Great Global Warming Swindle (2007)

http://www.moviesfoundonline.com/great_global_warming_swindle.php

39 posted on 11/26/2009 8:02:30 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; All

Ms Greener isn’t a fool, she’s a communist. These aren’t scientists they are activists using propaganda thinly veiled as science to fool the masses.

What do they care about facts? If they were concerned with facts they wouldn’t support global warming or communism.


40 posted on 11/26/2009 8:05:23 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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