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To: muawiyah

“People who believe in the 2500 scientists story are the TRUE BELIEVERS of the age”

Whenever I hear this “2500 scientists” crap from people I know and people I work with (most of whom are scientists) I reply “Name 5 of them”.

Most can’t name two.

Moreover, a significant fraction of those “2500 scientists” associated with the IPCC are government bureaucrats from government agencies associated with climate concerns; others may be actual scientists, but they’re from countries on the order of Gambia, who are only too happy to get a ticket to cool places like Kyoto and Copenhagen.

An appeal to “2500 scientists” isn’t an argument - it’s a strategy to avoid an argument. And if you’re Algore or Browner, and you don’t know shiite about science, that’s probably an understandable approach.


21 posted on 11/26/2009 7:50:52 AM PST by Stosh
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To: Stosh

These people are letting those Cap and Trade tax, Dollar signs in their eyes, close their minds.


27 posted on 11/26/2009 7:54:00 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Stosh
You are exactly right. You see very little information about who these people are, but I recall that most of them are "social" scientists, ie, people who have virtually NO real scientific training.

As you know, the "Petition Project" has collected signatures from 31,486 real American scientists...

The current list of petition signers includes 9,029 PhD; 7,157 MS; 2,586 MD and DVM; and 12,714 BS or equivalent academic degrees. Most of the MD and DVM signers also have underlying degrees in basic science.

All of the listed signers have formal educations in fields of specialization that suitably qualify them to evaluate the research data related to the petition statement. Many of the signers currently work in climatological, meteorological, atmospheric, environmental, geophysical, astronomical, and biological fields directly involved in the climate change controversy.

They also openly list the credentials and names of each of the people who have signed the petition including their specialty. Many are experts in atmospheric research.

I have never seen such a list of warmist believers. They are hiding behind anonymity.

I know which group I'll listen to when I draw conclusions.

41 posted on 11/26/2009 8:07:03 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Stosh

The documentary “the Great Global Warming Swindle” has a scientist who makes the exact same claim that these people are vaguely related to the inquiry, have been included on the list without their consent, etc. It’s a travesty when politics rears its head.


47 posted on 11/26/2009 8:26:01 AM PST by Blind Eye Jones
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