Posted on 11/26/2009 12:42:48 AM PST by myknowledge
Way to go, Marcel Efroimski. She has beaten Muslims at their game. Congratulations.
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http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=5934
The following letter was sent to FIDE, President Kirsan Ilumzhinov and Vice President Israel Gelfer.
Dear Mr. President,
I write to you with great concern following what seems as a serious incident that occurred .Today during the closing ceremony of the world junior championships held in Turkey. Happily our girl junior player, Marcel Efroymsky, has won the world title and the gold medal. As customed in such events, the delegations prepared to stand and salute the national anthem of the winner’s country. Astonishingly and without any warning, the organizers decided to cancel the playing of the winners anthem. The Turkish organization has offered a ridiculous explanation that they do not have the time to spend on such event.
This excuse is absurd in light of the same venue hosting this event two years ago where all winner anthems were played! In there actions, the organizers demonstrated disrespect to the junior winners, their federation and their countries. As chairman of the Israeli Chess Federation, I herby urge you to investigate this incident. I must say that this kind of boycott (if such occurred) strikes as a another example of how politics interferes with chess. I call you as president of the FIDE, for which the tournament carried your flag, to investigate this issue and if the information appeared to be accurate, then to denounce this disrespectful conduct if the information.
My feeling is, that such events hurt chess in general and send the wrong message the children who dream to become chess champions taking pride in representing their countries.
Yours truly,
Aviv Bushinsky
Chairman of the Israeli Chess Federation
The TCF officials and organisers were on the road or in the air back to Ankara or Istanbul, so we were unable to contact them for a statement on this matter. We assume that it was not a boycott but simply too many national anthems twelve to be played at a closing ceremony in a hall packed with over a thousand exhausted kids.
Addendum: In the meantime the President of the Turkish Chess Federation, Ali Nihat Yazici, has returned to his base in Ankara and replied to our inquiry. Here is his letter:
Dear ChessBase,
2009 World Youth Chess Championships, were organised in Antalya with very good conditions. We did not get any complaint for the event on the contrary we got much positive feedbacks.
Let me explain you that in the 2009 World Youth Chess Championships closing ceremony, after consultation with FIDE authorities in Antalya in advance, a long time before the final round, we decided not to play any national anthems. You should understand that, as you mentioned on your website, twelve anthems would last at least 50 minutes, and considering the very young players and many guests it would have been torture to them.
So no anthems were played, not even the national anthem of Turkey, or the anthem of FIDE.
Today when I read your website, and this scandalous letter of ICF, I was shocked. This kind of news may get attention, but it does not contribute to our eminent sport. On the contrary, such as approach can only help to get politics into chess, which all we are afraid and very far. We had always excellent relations with Israel Chess Federation without any problem, we do not share the comment on the official protest of their chairman. We think that also that scandalous letter does not have any base on the board of Israel Chess Federation. We will make official explanation to related diplomatic missions. However, I should say that by listening a parent, and not a good friend, the chairman of Israel Chess Federation went very far passing all limits. That is a shame for chess which tries to make world a peaceful place.
Best regards,
Ali Nihat YAZICI
President
"Let me explain you that in the 2009 World Youth Chess Championships closing ceremony, after consultation with FIDE authorities in Antalya in advance, a long time before the final round, we decided not to play any national anthems. You should understand that, as you mentioned on your website, twelve anthems would last at least 50 minutes, and considering the very young players and many guests it would have been torture to them."
For many centuries in the Ottoman Empire the only profession Jews could practice was that of slave merchant.
Since the slaves in the western and northern part of the Ottoman Empire generally came from eastern Europe, is it any wonder so much of the population of Europe and Russia hated Jews?
Anti-Semitic hatred fills their minds, bodies and souls.
Ditto, that; you forgot to mention "lazy".
I should know...coming from Germany, I can attest first hand about the major headaches the Turks are for the Germans, especially on the cultural and religious level.
Everybody is scratching their heads (especially on this side of the pond) why the EU is so reluctant to grant Turkey equal access to EU membership.
Turkey, by and large is a nation of free loaders and corruption, with no principles and/or allegiance to anyone/anything. Baksheesh gets you everything...
Backsheesh is to Muslims as corruption is to Democrats.
GOOD FOR HER!
In its way, this photo is as powerful as the skinny guy who faced down the tank in Tianamen Square.
Damnation to oppressors!
And WELL DONE to the WINNER!
Thanks for the clarification. Apparently, no anthems from any country were played so end of story.
BTW, chess did not originate in the Islamic world. Its exact genesis point is not known with certainty, but it sprad at about the same time to China and the Islamic world from India.
It has been traced to India as early as the 6th century A.D.
Personally, I think this lame excuse is enough to remove Turkey from ever hosting such an event ever again. End of story.
It’s interesting about what you shared. So, basically, the movie MIDNIGHT EXPRESS about sums Turkey up, accurately? That film was powerful enough, but I’d LOVE to hear some of your anecdotes about your experience there. (Thank you for serving our country.)
LOL, that comment made me spit my coffee on my keyboard. Good one.
When I lived in Turkey we were under martial law. Being a Christian was dangerous. The Muslims were very violent criminals and made unrealistic demands. Turkey tried to be an encompassing country for all people but the cult members of Islam were not going to have that.
“coming from Germany, I can attest first hand about the major headaches the Turks are for the Germans”
I can understand the historical reasons why France has the Algerians, Britain the Indians/Pakistanis, but why does Germany have the Turks?
It’s funny & all, but at the end of the day, that is a major protagonist (vicarious actor for the viewer) with pedo & homo tendencies.
I can’t help but think if society had drawn the line earlier we wouldn’t have all the trouble we do now.
We should have drawn the line at that scene. They snuck it in there with a lot of ordinary funny stuff.
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