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To: Rutles4Ever
Ohhh.... It's actually funny in a way.

You obviously work from the "inside" and take everything according to your beliefs. I have been outside from the church for a long time hoping that someday I would be worthy of reconciling with it but when I was ready to do it, the scandals happened and they really, really shocked me... Especially the way Rome (the big guys) reacted to it.

In short, I see the church from the "outside" so to speak. I see a church that is still "dirty" by what happened and still - ARROGANTLY - has not done ENOUGH to clean itself up, etc, etc, etc.

I know you will probably be offended by my views and will never agree with them the way I think I will never agree with yours. Too bad.

Ok, had enough for today. Bye

46 posted on 11/24/2009 12:52:52 PM PST by ElPatriota (The SILENCE of the Catholic Church on the war (...Actually I heard something lately) ** DEAFENING **)
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To: ElPatriota

You see the Church though the eyes of its enemies, which include most prominently the gay activists who scorn the Church of hypocrisy while refusing to acknowledge that the evils these men did were homosexual acts. Such don’t hate the Church, or indeed all Christians, for the evil they does but for the good they do. To them preaching the Gospel is an evil thing.


57 posted on 11/24/2009 1:20:21 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: ElPatriota

So, in essence, you’ve excommunicated yourself over the failings of certain people?

I would just ask you to reflect on the actions of the Apostles after Judas betrayed Christ - their purposeful self-exclusion from the crucifixion (except for John), and their “re-entry” into belief when Jesus stood before them.

I’m sure you would have had beefs with the way Christ let Judas betray him like that, maybe even demanded reforms and explanations from the Lord. But would any of the Apostles been better off on that day He stood before them, if they decided to spend it upbraiding Him for scandalizing them like that?

I’m not offended by your views, just puzzled by anyone who prefers to be “outside” the ark rather than “inside”, in spite of the smelly animals that are riding along.


58 posted on 11/24/2009 1:21:44 PM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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