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To: ElPatriota
Sorry but I don't agree with you at all!... These are different times, we have means (Internet) to make our voice heard now... To sit on one's a** and let the RCC go the wrong way (as they did with sexual abuses) and do nothing, say nothing... is NOT to love the church. On the contrary, fighting to clean it up and putting their feet to the fire (Bishops), is the way the go, I feel this deep down in my heart. One thing our Bishops have demonstrated is that they can not be trusted... completely. They seem to be caught on the wrong side of things too often.

There's a fine line between speaking up and making oneself holier than the Church. I agree that the laity have had to bear a much greater burden in trying to end abuses, than should have ever taken place, but oftentimes the 'hold the feet to the fire' approach turns into character assassination, calumny, gossip, and outright slander based on misinformation and lies originating elsewhere. In essence, one has to walk a tightrope between constructively critizing a priest/bishop for their failings and criticizing the office itself, which is a grave sin.

Light a candle and you'll shed light on the situation.

Light a torch and you'll shed light on the situation... but maybe burn the place down, too.

34 posted on 11/24/2009 12:23:21 PM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: Rutles4Ever
...In essence, one has to walk a tightrope between constructively critizing a priest/bishop for their failings and criticizing the office itself, which is a grave sin...

I sort of understand what you are saying, but I can't afford that luxury since don't know as much as you do about the church.

So my choices are simple: shut up since I don't know enough to "walk that tightrope" or keep swinging it as I have been doing and let the chips fall where they may. No doing anything is not an option for me.

I still feel that if more Catholics (good ones and not so good ones) would SPEAK UP, the church, human that they are, would clean up faster and be more decisive in doing it. Thanks.

37 posted on 11/24/2009 12:36:56 PM PST by ElPatriota (The SILENCE of the Catholic Church on the war (...Actually I heard something lately) ** DEAFENING **)
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