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Settled Science? [Climategate]
Wall St Journal | Nov 24, 2009 | JAMES TARANTO

Posted on 11/24/2009 2:06:24 AM PST by The Raven

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I can't see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report," Jones writes. "Kevin and I will keep them out somehow--even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is!"

In another, Jones and Mann discuss how they can pressure an academic journal not to accept the work of climate skeptics with whom they disagree. "Perhaps we should encourage our colleagues in the climate research community to no longer submit to, or cite papers in, this journal," Mann writes. . . .

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This is downright Orwellian. What the Post describes is not a vigorous debate but an attempt to suppress debate--to politicize the process of scientific inquiry so that it yields a predetermined result. This does not, in itself, prove the global warmists wrong. But it raises a glaring question: If they have the facts on their side, why do they need to resort to tactics of suppression and intimidation?


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: climatechange; climategate; cruhack; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; hadleycru; mannmade; meddledscience
See also

Global Warming With the Lid Off

1 posted on 11/24/2009 2:06:25 AM PST by The Raven
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To: The Raven

These people need to be tried and thrown in jail for the rest of their lives.


2 posted on 11/24/2009 2:09:38 AM PST by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: WKUHilltopper

And made to pay back all the money that taxpayers have thrown down this hole...


3 posted on 11/24/2009 2:12:42 AM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: All
Whoops - Here's the forgotten WSJ URL for Settled Science?
4 posted on 11/24/2009 2:14:26 AM PST by The Raven
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To: The Raven

PING


5 posted on 11/24/2009 2:16:22 AM PST by Ulysse (a)
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To: The Raven

OBA MAO says what? Huuuuh errrr hum climate CHANGE !
Yeah that’s it I will change the climate and change the Global Warming into SSOCIALIST GLOBAL WARNING and SSOCIALIST GLOBAL health CARES...
Ya know SSOCIALIST STATE takes care of you and your family!
Don’t worry! Just give me your brain,freedom,and believe in me


6 posted on 11/24/2009 2:22:35 AM PST by Ulysse (a)
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To: The Raven

Global Warming started as a scam and it grew into the biggest con job in the last 5 years.


7 posted on 11/24/2009 2:33:23 AM PST by Venturer
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To: The Raven; Desdemona; Fractal Trader; grey_whiskers; markomalley; scripter; Defendingliberty; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

8 posted on 11/24/2009 2:45:50 AM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: The Raven
I can't see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report," Jones writes. "Kevin and I will keep them out somehow--even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is!"

LOL. Of course we need to have "CONTEXT" to really understand what Jones means here" - at least according the NYT.

In fact, a five-year-old, just like the ones getting screwed by the fine print in those commercials, could smell a rat with this statement. What we need is for the UK authorities to take some action on the FOI conspiracy and hang these guys out to dry.

9 posted on 11/24/2009 2:48:22 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: InterceptPoint
In fact, a five-year-old....

Yep----this is one of those "Are you smarter than a fifth grader" moments


10 posted on 11/24/2009 3:03:14 AM PST by The Raven
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To: The Raven

bump


11 posted on 11/24/2009 3:30:34 AM PST by Billg64 (It is my belief that this is our last opportunity to peacefully protect our republic.)
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To: The Raven

bfl


12 posted on 11/24/2009 3:32:43 AM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: InterceptPoint
LOL. Of course we need to have "CONTEXT" to really understand what Jones means here" - at least according the NYT.

A paper whose reporter, Andrew C. Revkin was a co-conspirator in the hoax (or, to be more charitable, a mouthpiece for the conspirators).

Media Matters, the Center for American Progress and the NYTs were, right out of the box, screaming about "context" and these scientists being human, after all. Passionate about their work and just a little overheated.

But it's more than the emails. The fraud is written inside the code:

CRU emails may be open to interpretation but commented code by the programmer tells the real story

13 posted on 11/24/2009 3:42:29 AM PST by Brugmansian
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To: The Raven

ARE THESE PEOPLE FIRED YET?????????


14 posted on 11/24/2009 3:58:45 AM PST by Mr. K (Deathly afraid my typos become a freeper catchphrase...I'm series!)
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To: The Raven
The libs should be happy CA might not be falling in the Pacific, at least physically.
15 posted on 11/24/2009 4:03:12 AM PST by 1776 Reborn (Test kids and politicians (bigger idiots) on the Constitution!)
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This does not, in itself, prove the global warmists wrong.

No, it just proves they don't utilize science to arrive at their conclusions. AGW is a blend of religion of scam.

16 posted on 11/24/2009 4:25:27 AM PST by highlander_UW (To anger a conservative tell him a lie. To anger a liberal tell him the truth.)
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To: The Raven

A list of names and locations would be a great start for some hacker. As a public services to end this fraud once and for all.


17 posted on 11/24/2009 5:09:30 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: WKUHilltopper

“These people need to be tried and thrown in jail for the rest of their lives.”

I want to see Laurie David stripped naked, pilloried and whipped.


18 posted on 11/24/2009 5:18:22 AM PST by y6162 (uish..)
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To: The Raven
This is downright Orwellian. What the Post describes is not a vigorous debate but an attempt to suppress debate--to politicize the process of scientific inquiry so that it yields a predetermined result.

Yep, that's been shown in this video documentary below... :-)


It’s one thing to gripe and complain about these things and disagree with it, but it’s quite another to convince your friends and neighbors and relatives and coworkers...

THEREFORE..., it’s also absolutely necessary for people to know the information in the following documentary. If there were simply one video that you could see and/or show people you know... this would be the one...


The following is an excellent video documentary on the so-called “Global Warming” I would recommend it to all FReepers. It’s a very well-made documentary.

“The Great Global Warming Swindle”

If you want to download it, via a BitTorrent site (using a BitTorrent client), you can get it at the following link. Information about BitTorrent protocol and BitTorrent clients and their comparison at these three links (in this sentence). Some additional BitTorrent information here and here.

Download it here...
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/3635222/The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle
[This is a high-quality copy, of about a gigabyte in size. This link is the information about it, and you have to click the download link to get it on your BitTorrent client software. You'll also find users' comments here, too.]

It’s worth seeing and having for relatives, friends, neighbors and coworkers to see.

Also, see it online here...
http://www.moviesfoundonline.com/great_global_warming_swindle.php
[this one is considerably lower quality, is a flash video and viewable online, of course..., and also, you can download flash video on a website either yourself or some software doing it.]

Buy it on DVD here...
[this would be the very highest quality version, on a DVD disk, of several gigabytes in size...] At Amazon, it seems to be high-priced now and have only a few copies right now.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000WLUXZE

At WAGtv (a UK shop), but don't know about shipping. The price is reasonable, though.
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[And..., some information from WAGtv about this item.]


Also, in split parts on YouTube...

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 1 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TqqWJugXzs

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 2 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5rGpDMN8lw

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 3 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzFL6Ixe_bo

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 4 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNQy2rT_dvU

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 5 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dzIMXGI6k8

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 6 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GjOgQN1Jco

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 7 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHI2GfbfrYw

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 8 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N9benJh3Lw

The Great Global Warming Swindle - Credits (Part 9 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_1ifP-ri58

19 posted on 11/24/2009 5:45:23 AM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: The Raven

bfl


20 posted on 11/24/2009 6:39:47 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (It's better to give a Ford to the Kidney Foundation than a kidney to the Ford Foundation.)
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