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To: cogitator; Wonder Warthog
The most important matters are

1. the entire edifice of anthropogenic global warming depends on climate model predictions of the effect of atmospheric CO2 on atmospheric temperature.

2. the models predicted a hot spot in the upper troposphere.

3. this hot spot has never been observed to exist.

4. the largest part of atmospheric warming is due to water vapor.

5. the rest is due to something, but not to anthropogenic CO2 because

6. virtually all warming due to atmospheric CO2 occurs in the first 100 ppm, exceeded many millions of years ago,

7. doubling, tripling, quadrupling the current amount of 380 ppm would have a negligible effect on temperature,

8. such multiplication of CO2 levels could not occur through human use of carbon-based fuels because
a. the human contribution to atmospheric CO2 is only about 5% percent, at most, of current atmospheric CO2,
b. the residence time of a molecule of atmospheric CO2 is only about 5 years,
c. it would require that human production of CO2 be increased 20 to 80-fold.


Because of 1-3, especially, everything else in the anthropogenic global warming movement is handwaving at best, fraud at worst.
72 posted on 11/26/2009 12:08:01 AM PST by aruanan
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To: aruanan
Points 2 and 3 are simplistic summaries of a complex aspect of the climate system; Point 4 is correct; the rest of your points aren't even close to accurate. And I am not "bluffing". There is so much wrong that is beyond my capability to even start to patiently explain to you why you're wrong. If I tried to correct you politely you wouldn't listen and you'd accuse me of being a scare-mongering alarmist.

Regarding points 2 and 3: http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=4101

Pay attention to beaker.

77 posted on 11/26/2009 9:49:06 PM PST by cogitator
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