Posted on 11/22/2009 7:08:56 PM PST by markomalley
The Republican party wonders why conservatives are so disappointed with it?
Another glowing example of the problems confronting the Republican party occurred yesterday. The Senate Republicans had the opportunity to force a full reading of the Senate's proposed health care bill so that every bit of the 2,200 pages would be made public by the reading, and so the people could become much better informed about its contents before it is passed...if it is passed. It had the opportunity to really hold the Democrats' feet to the fire over this abominable excuse for legislation that is being crammed down the throats of a majority of Americans who want no part of it. if nothing else, this delaying tactic would've served to cause more focus on those who were about to vote "Yes" to move this bill from Committee.
The Republicans decided that they wanted to go home for the Thanksgiving recess of the Senate more than they wanted to fulfill their obligations to those who elected them to serve in the Senate. Pure and simple! They ignored the Senate rules that could've been brought to bear on behalf of the citizens they represent. They threw in the towel rather than spend a week-end in Washington, D.C. fighting the good fight. They, being in the minority, threw in the towel over something that would've let them at least assert their rights as a minority. They could've tried to change just one Democrat or Independent mind and thus prevent the bill from even being debated. Had it not been debated, the entire health care reform effort would've been shut down.
Conservatives are rightly angered by this latest slap in the face from the party that is supposedly keeping its eye on the majority. Michael Steele makes noises as if he is conservative but he fails to influence the party leaders in the grand old "club" we call the Senate to stay and fight for the principles important to conservatives. The leaders of the Senate Republicans like to make believe they're conservative, but their actions seem to decry that.
When such an opportunity presents itself to Democrats, they unhesitatingly take that opportunity. When the same opportunity presents itself to the Republicans, they fail to take a swing at the ball.
And the Republican party wonders why it has so much dissent, within the party and outside the party, from the conservatives who are still members of that party and from those who've long ago ended their membership in that party. It wonders this after the dismal campaign for president and the bushwhacking suffered by then-Governor Palin from inside the McCain campaign. It wonders this after Michael Steele sends mixed signals. It wonders this after the groups that have formed outside the Republican party offer it opportunities that it spurns.
I have been a conservative since I reached voting age. I was a member of the Republican party for a long time but that ended several years ago...and it isn't likely to change with these demonstrations of just how hopeless this party is from a conservative's perspective.
The "silver platter" had been within its grasp, and it couldn't even bring itself to reach out and take the offering.
You bet. It's the corrupt "Two-Party Cartel" flinging the good guy - bad guy crapola, all the while selling the nation out. Just wait at the next election. The same pukes will be back in their same positions doing the same dirty work. Again, how amazing that all of these bills come down to one vote swing change.
They must be city republicans.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus
From what I understand, all it would take is a single senator to object to the 'unanimous consent' required to skip the reading. This is a failure of every single republican senator.
Sen. Tom Coburn had been threatening to read the entire bill. Did he back down? I wonder why he would do that.
Dear Repubs: Here’s why. It is because you don’t know how to win a fight. Grow a pair.
If the Republicans had forced a reading of the bill, the media would have had a field day with the stunt. It would have been as self-destructive as the 1995 government shutdown. When the MSM own 80% of the population against talk radio’s 20%, you have no chance of a media coup unless the media does it to itself, e.g. Rathergate.
Maybe so. I'm still more comfortable electing RINOs over rats...but then I'm no longer a conservative. I'm an anti-rat Republican who wants to win power from the rats...something conservatives don't care about.
Uncommon wisdom for this forum.
Uncommon wisdom my a**! Both of you guys are too stupid to poor pi** out of a boot. As for you Once-ler, if you think electing RINOs will actually make this country free again, your are even dumber than you sound. RINOs will take us to the same end, that is what they want, we will still be a socialist hell hole with RINOs or with dimwits, George Bush proved that with 8 years of RINO control that turned the US to sh**.
I would suggest you get off this forum since it is for conservatives and you seem to think being a liberal is the way to go. DU needs a few new recruits, perhaps you should try there.
SOB's
Thank you for your insulting reply that did absolutly nothing to refute my arguement. It goes a long way towards proving how strong my arguement is.
Who are you to tell anyone to leave?
Chicken
The alphabets are losing mind share to Fox. What decade did you Rip van Winkle out of?
Stunt? You think an attempt to forestall this bill would be classified a stunt? It sounds as if you are happy it made it to the floor.
Will you also classify the few GOP members that tear it apart on the floor a "stunt"?
The alphabets TOGETHER are still over 80% reach to FOX/talk radio’s less than 20%. It is a long long way yet to a tipping point.
Yes, a 30-hour delay for a reading is easily spun as a stunt when most people will hear only that opinion repeated over and over. If you can’t win substantively on the cloture votes anyway, what good is a 30-hour delay and asking for another beating in the press that will only lose you support? Republicans cannot play games for propaganda points in the media like the Democrats do - they are for better or worse confined to substance that give the press nothing to easily ridicule.
“The Republican party wonders why conservatives are so disappointed with it?”
They had both houses of Congress and the White House. THey did TWO things.
Jack and Squat.
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