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Gulf arms race triggered by Iranian aggression
The Telegraph ^ | 11/22/2009 | Richard Spencer in Dubai

Posted on 11/22/2009 5:00:24 PM PST by bruinbirdman

Tensions over Iran's nuclear programme have spurred an arms race in the Gulf with record defence deals being negotiated.

Saudi Arabia, long the major arms-buyer in the region, is now being overtaken by relative minnows such as the United Arab Emirates as they share their neighbour's fear of the growing military strength of their Shia neighbour.

Iran yesterday began a week-long military exercise to test its readiness against missile attack. The exercise was overtly intended as a message to Israel that any attack on its nuclear programme would be met with strong resistance.

"If the enemy wants to test its bad luck and fire a missile into Iran, before the dust settles, Iran's ballistic missiles will target the heart of Tel Aviv," Mojtaba Zolnour, an aide to the Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, said.

But Gulf states believe Iran's main strategic aim is to become the dominant power in the oil-rich region. As the West shows itself unable to prevent Iran developing its nuclear programme, they are determined to arm themselves.

The refusal by Iran to agree a deal to send most of its enriched uranium abroad would only spur arms sales further, said Theodore Karasik, director of research at the Institute for Near East and Gulf Military Analysis.

"The threat perception is definitely about Iran," he said.

Arms companies were in buoyant mood at last week's Dubai air show particularly in comparison to the civilian air industry, which is suffering from a credit crunch-induced slump in passenger numbers.

BAE Systems, Britain's biggest arms manufacturer, is currently delivering to Saudi Arabia an order for 72 Eurofighter Typhoon jets, which it makes as part of a European consortium.

Defence spending in the kingdom is projected to rise from $43.52 billion this year (pounds 26.17 billion) to $47.4 billion (pounds 28.5billion) in

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KEYWORDS: gulfregion; gulfstates; iran; militarybuildup

1 posted on 11/22/2009 5:00:24 PM PST by bruinbirdman
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To: FARS; nuconvert; LibreOuMort

“does not look good” ping


2 posted on 11/22/2009 5:02:15 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: sionnsar

As the West shows itself unable to prevent Iran developing its nuclear programme, they are determined to arm themselves.

So the Arabs are arming themselves with 3rd tier western conventional toys while Persia is going nuclear. Don’t really get it.


3 posted on 11/22/2009 5:05:02 PM PST by Flavius
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To: bruinbirdman
Iranian aggression

Iran is an ultra-conservative republic, unlike most of its socialist neighbors, with no history of territorial expansion, unlike most of its socialist neighbors. Conservatives generally believe that only the police having guns is dangerous. Only the police govenments and their friends having nuclear weapons is probably dangerous too.

4 posted on 11/22/2009 5:14:51 PM PST by Reeses
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To: Reeses
The islamic regime in Iran is just as bit as socialistic. They just go by the name of "islamic welfare blablabla". Check out the rate of state-ownership over the economy in Iran. The islamic regime is also aggressive and expansionist. Not by acquiring territory, but by spreading the islamic revolution since 30 years. From Iraq over Lebanon to Palestine, the islamic regime has proxies ruling over turf and territory, working as an extended arm.

The Khomeinist ideology calls for nothing less than the overthrow of all governments in the islamic world in favor of "the islamic republic". BTW the neigbours, Turkey, Iraq, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Afghanistan and Pakistan are hardly "socialist" and they are also republics. And the Arab monarchies across the gulf have extensive welfare states, due to their immense oil wealth, but "socialist" as in commie? Please... Little sense your post makes.

5 posted on 11/22/2009 5:29:03 PM PST by SolidWood (Sarah Palin: "Only dead fish go with the flow!")
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To: Flavius
So the Arabs are arming themselves with 3rd tier western conventional toys while Persia is going nuclear. Don’t really get it.

The Gulf Arabs don't even dream about getting off their rears. If the sh*t hits the fan they will expect the US to save their rears.

The Sheikhs are merely buying expensive toys... with maybe a little bit of "deterrence" effect.

6 posted on 11/22/2009 5:41:46 PM PST by SolidWood (Sarah Palin: "Only dead fish go with the flow!")
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To: Flavius
So the Arabs are arming themselves with 3rd tier western conventional toys while Persia is going nuclear. Don’t really get it.

Unless they can produce a lot of atomic bombs (I don't see signs Ahmadinejad is going for fusion weaponry, "only" fission) Iran can hurt but not kill -- and thus bring on itself a lot of grief from more highly-targeted conventional weapons.

If my assumption is wrong, please disregard this post.

7 posted on 11/22/2009 5:42:42 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: Reeses
Iran is an ultra-conservative republic, unlike most of its socialist neighbors, with no history of territorial expansion, unlike most of its socialist neighbors.

Persia, like the vast majority of empires, has been quiescent in periods of weakness, and expansive in periods of strength.

8 posted on 11/22/2009 5:44:32 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always)
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To: Zhang Fei; Reeses
Reeses is referring to the 30-year history of the "islamic republic". Even so he is wrong, considering both the aggressive nature of the Khomeinist ideology, which officialy "exports revolution" through subversion and terror, rather than conventional armies.

To paint the Khomeinist islamic regime, which is ruling Iran by force since 30 years, as a benign, pacific and "conservative" (it's infact fundamentalist-revolutionary... a islamist emulation of the Soviet model) is a ridiculous attempt at revisionism.

Conservative Shiism was in favor of the monarchy. Not the Pahlavi monarchy in particular, but monarchy in principle. There is no "Republic" in Shia Islam. That's why the Shia clergy opposed a Pahlavi Republic in 1924. They wanted to keep the previous Qajar dynasty, so Prime Minister Reza Khan founded a new Dynasty, instead of a Republic (as he intended).

The concept of an "islamic republic" was a radical novelty of the late 1960's and 70's, under the influence of "islamic marxism" and other socialist/fascist political models.

Except for medieval laws there is nothing that could be described as "conservative" (least of it in the Western meaning) about the current mullah regime.

9 posted on 11/22/2009 5:56:25 PM PST by SolidWood (Sarah Palin: "Only dead fish go with the flow!")
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To: bruinbirdman

Why is the West selling this stuff to them? It’s not like the Arab states actually have the military power, even with this stuff, to defeat Iran. They’re just trying to catch up in “prestige” with Iran by buying this stuff, and maybe secretly hoping it will make Iran think twice about threatening them. When Saddam invaded Kuwait the Saudis asked us to save their butts and they’ll do the same with Iran. Selling weapons to Arab states really does nothing beneficial.


10 posted on 11/22/2009 9:29:39 PM PST by G8 Diplomat
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To: G8 Diplomat

No logical military sense but tons of commercial sense for the arms industries of many nations who vie to sell weapons to anyone and everyone who can pay.


11 posted on 11/23/2009 10:42:18 AM PST by FARS ( Be Happy, be Well and Thrive)
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