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Healthcare disaster looms
The American Thinker ^
| November 21, 2009
| James Simpson
Posted on 11/22/2009 4:05:42 AM PST by Scanian
This Congress is beneath contempt. What they are poised to pass today -- yes I know this is just a procedural vote, but everything turns on it -- is an abomination. Since Lincoln and Landrieu have been bought off it is now sure to pass. Landrieu's vote will cost the taxpayers $100 million. I wonder what we paid Lincoln to betray us? This bill will not merely ruin our healthcare system; it will impose economy-crushing taxes, pushing our already tottering economy ever closer to the abyss.
No surprise there. Candidate Obama said that since we are only 4 percent of the world population, we couldn't go on consuming 25 percent of the world's resources. It's not fair. In his worldview we should only be consuming, what, 4 percent? In his mind we are confiscating resources and need to give them back.
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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bribery; obama; obamacare; obmacare; romney; romneycare; senate; shamelessness
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posted on
11/22/2009 4:05:43 AM PST
by
Scanian
To: Scanian
Apparently according to her, Landrieu’s vote cost taxpayers $300 million—not that that state hasn’t already cost us a bloody fortune for the “city below sea level”.
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posted on
11/22/2009 4:09:34 AM PST
by
nclaurel
To: Scanian
Just emember what they really want to do...Create another "kitty" to rob from every year...like SS, Medicare, Medicaid.
Medicaid now covers anyone who can't pay or doesn't have insurance so why must everyone have insurance??
To: Sacajaweau
We’ll all have insurance, required by law, at roughly three times the current rates by my guess.
What we will NOT have is access to health care.
“Money for nothing”, as the song goes...
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posted on
11/22/2009 4:17:11 AM PST
by
benewton
To: Scanian
PROOF ObamaCARE will fail bacause RomneyCARE is a Disaster
Small businesses bridle at health insurance hikes (Romneycare strangles Mass. businesses)
Many told to expect double-digit jumps.
Bob Carroll, owner of a Billerica distributor of paint spraying equipment, recently got
some really bad news from Blue Cross-Blue Shield: His companys health insurance rates are going up 47 percent in January.
Republicans warn: Rationing medicine has already begun
But in a joint opinion piece called "Govt.-Run Health Care Isn't the Answer," published
in the online version of The Advocate, a leading homosexual magazine, Sen. Tom
Coburn, R-Okla., and GOProud's Christopher R. Barron warned the homosexual
community that the Ryan White CARE Act has already demonstrated how government-
run health care has introduced rationing and waiting lists and cost the lives of the people under its provisions.
DEATH PANELS OPEN FOR BUSINESS IN MASSACHUSETTS
President Obama's newly confirmed regulatory czar defended the
possibility of removing organs from terminally ill patients without their permission.
You cant reap these savings without limiting patients choices in some way," said Paul Levy, CEO of Beth Israel Deaconess.
State plan may place limits on patients hospital options( Mass. RomneyCare )
"Romney Visits Nebraska, Talks Health Care [where he defends Romneycare]
"Paying the Health Tax in Massachusetts [Romneycare]
Massachusetts requires every resident to have health insurance, and this
year, without informing us directly, the state had changed the rules in a way that made
our bare-bones policy no longer acceptable. Unless we ponied up for a pricier policy we
neither need nor wantor enrolled in a government-sponsored insurance planwe
would have to pay $1,000 each year to the state.
How did we become outlaws?
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"National Health Preview - The Massachusetts debacle, coming soon to your neighborhood."
It was only a matter of time.
They're trying to manage the huge costs of the subsidized middle-class insurance program that is gradually swallowing the state budget.
The program provides low- or no-cost coverage to about 165,000 residents, or three-fifths of the newly insured, and is budgeted at $880 million for 2010, a 7.3% single-year increase that is likely to be optimistic.
The state's overall costs on health programs have increased by 42% (!) since 2006."
A Very Sick Health Plan; Bay States Grand Experiment Fails [RomneyCare]
"Initiated on Mr. Romneys gubernatorial watch in 2006, this experiment has fallen on hard times, and predictably so.
Health care in Massachusetts: a warning for America [Romney brings Mass. to its knees]
The Bay State's mandatory insurance law is raising costs, limiting access, and lowering care.
Three years ago, Massachusetts adopted a plan requiring all residents to purchase health
insurance, with state subsidies for lower-income residents. But rather than creating a
utopia of high-quality affordable healthcare, the result has been the exact opposite
skyrocketing costs, worsened access, and lower quality care."
"Severe doc shortage seen hiking wait time
The shortage is getting more severe"
Health costs to rise again.( RomneyCare )
The states major health insurers plan to raise premiums by about 10 percent next year,
prompting many employers to reduce benefits and shift additional costs to workers.
Nations ill-advised to follow Mass. plan [Health plan a failure]
September 17, 2009 The canary is dead.
Massachusetts, the model for the ObamaCare universal insurance plan, is the canary in
the health care coal mine. Yesterday, its obit appeared on the front page of both The Wall
Street Journal and The Boston Globe-Democrat
"Bay State Insurance Premiums Highest in Country - Boston Globe August 22, 2009
Massachusetts has the most expensive family health insurance premiums in the country,
according to a new analysis that highlights the states challenge in trying to rein in medical costs
40 percent higher than in 2003. Over the same period, premiums nationwide rose an average of 33 percent..."
"Massachusetts: the laboratory for ObamaCare
"Massachusetts' Obama-like reforms increase health costs, wait times [RomneyCare]
Premiums are growing 21 to 46 percent faster than the national average"
"Mass. Pushes Rationing to Control Universal Healthcare Costs (RomneyCare)
A 10-member Massachusetts state healthcare advisory board unanimously recommended
that the state begin rationing healthcare to keep the states marquee universal health care program afloat financially.
"1,000 cancer patients 'refused treatment'"
"Massachusetts Universal Healthcare System Breaking Down Already
ERs in Massachusetts have not seen a downturn in visits. On the contrary, it seems that ER visits are actually on the upswing in the Bay State. In fact, in 2007 they were higher than the national average by 20 percent...
"Hospital patients 'left in agony'"
"National Health Preview - The Massachusetts debacle, coming soon to your neighborhood.
In Massachusetts's latest crisis,
They're trying to manage the huge costs of the subsidized middle-class insurance program that is gradually swallowing the state budget.
The program provides low- or no-cost coverage to about 165,000 residents, or three-fifths of the newly insured, and is budgeted at $880 million for 2010, a 7.3% single-year increase that is likely to be optimistic.
The state's overall costs on health programs have increased by 42% (!) since 2006
Mr. Romney should have known better before signing on to this not-so-grand experiment, especially since the state's "free market" reforms that he boasts about have proven to be irrelevant when not fictional.
Only 21,000 people have used the "connector" that was supposed to link individuals to private insurers."
A Very Sick Health Plan; Bay States Grand Experiment Fails [RomneyCare]
fiscal troubles aplenty within Repubican Mitt Romneys brainchild, Massachusetts grand experiment in universal health care."
"Initiated on Mr. Romneys gubernatorial watch in 2006, this experiment has fallen on hard times, and predictably so.
Even though the Bay State commenced its program with a far smaller percentage of uninsured residents than exists nationwide,
RomneyCare is threatening to bankrupt the state.
"Dem Congresswoman Admits Obama Health Care Plan Will Destroy Private Health Insurance Industry"
"Romneys mistreatments a sick man, as Gov. Mitt Romney meets a medical marijuana patient"
PROOF OBAMA - CARE is a Disaster (and Congress could care less)
The former CBO director, Douglas Holtz-Eakin, warns today on the effect ObamaCare
will have on our economy and health care.
This bill will lead to a huge middle class tax increase:
The bill creates a new health entitlement program that the Congressional Budget Office
(CBO) estimates will grow over the longer term at a rate of 8% annually, which is much
faster than the growth rate of the economy or tax revenues.
When Barack Obama ran for president, he promised that his health care plan would
"lower health-care costs by $2,500 for the typical family." Now, it turns out that new
legislation that he supports creating public-private "co-operatives" will increase the costs
of family health insurance by $4,000 by 2019.
Robert Reich Reveals Brutal Health Care Truths; MSM Snores
"We're going to have to, if you're very old, we're not going to give you all that
technology and all those drugs for the last couple of years of your life to keep you
maybe going for another couple of months. It's too expensive...so we're going to let
you die."
PriceWaterhouseCoopers concluded that the cost of health insurance for the average
family will rise by $4,000 by 2019, as compared with doing nothing:
Customers will pay big for health fix: insurers
A major new report confirms the worst fears of many: Health care reform will raise the
costs for most Americansby about 18% on average. That is on top of existing inflation of health coverage.
The WSJ Guide to ObamaCare. A comprehensive collection of our editorials. "
45% Of Doctors Would Consider Quitting If Congress Passes Health Care Overhaul
Two of every three practicing physicians oppose the medical overhaul plan under
consideration in Washington, and hundreds of thousands would think about shutting
down their practices or retiring early if it were adopted, a new IBD/TIPP Poll has found.
The poll contradicts the claims of not only the White House, but also doctors' own lobby
the powerful American Medical Association
"Obama health care plan projected to cost 5.2 million jobs
In addition wages would be stunted for another 10.2 million wage earners."
"Oregon Offers Terminal Patients Doctor-Assisted Suicide Instead of Medical Care
PORTLAND, Ore. Some terminally ill patients in Oregon who turned to their state for health care
were denied treatment and offered doctor-assisted suicide instead
"[How could they] not pay for medication that would help my life, and yet offer to pay to end my life?"
"Obama Health-Care Would Drive Up Inflation and Health-Care Costs
ObamaCare would shrink the economy, drive up health-care costs and inflation,
and increase the deficit,
Overall, total federal expenditures will be 5.6 percent higher than otherwise by 2019, adding $285.6 billion to the federal deficit in 2019
"Pushing Veterans Toward the Grave
PROOF Socialized Medicine is a Disaster
NHS will provide free marriage guidance
Doctors and patients' groups said they were "horrified" by the use of NHS resources for
relationship advice when patients with cancer and dementia were being denied
treatment they desperately needed.
"Hospital patients 'left in agony'"
"Patients were allegedly left screaming in pain and drinking from flower vases on a nightmare hospital ward.
She said: "We saw patients drinking out of..."
Woman bleeds to death after doctor punctures jugular - and no blood is available(UK) "
Canadian Aboriginals receive body bags for flu
![](http://www.hvchronic.com/volume_2/no_1/CryingIndian.jpg)
Health officials ordered an investigation Thursday into why the Canadian government
sent body bags to an Aboriginal reserve in Manitoba after community leaders requested
assistance to deal with an expected outbreak of swine flu.
"Patient with ulcer collapses and dies after paramedics tell her: 'Stop being a drama queen'"
"Doctors said I'd had a miscarriage and did nothing as my premature baby fought for his life"
"British Death Panel IBD Editorials September 10, 2009
Single Payer: In Britain, where the public option is about all most patients get,
a newborn has died because national guidelines recommend that the baby not be treated."
"Is This The Obamacare Future? Overworked Doctors in Australia Worried They Are Killing Patients
there are long waiting lists for orthopedic surgery (median wait for total hip replacement is 88 days;
10% of patients waited over 345 days in 1999 to 2000), and cataract surgery (median is 73 days; 10% waited more than 316 days)."
"Bed shortage forces 4,000 mothers to give birth in lifts, offices and hospital toilets"
"Sentenced to death on the NHS
.
they can then have fluid and drugs withdrawn and many are put on continuous sedation until they pass away.
"NHS blunders allowed cannibal Peter Bryan to kill two
"Paramedics told: 'Let accident victims die if they want to' in new row over patient rights (UK)"
"Patients Forced To Wait Hours In Ambulances Parked Outside A&E Departments"
"Cancer survivor confronts the health secretary on 62-day wait (UK)"
"Hospital patient so shocked at dirty ward she climbed out of bed to clean it herself."
"Kidney cancer patients denied life-saving drugs by NHS rationing body NICE (UK) "
"Girl, 3, has heart operation cancelled three times because of bed shortage (UK)."
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posted on
11/22/2009 4:26:07 AM PST
by
Diogenesis
("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
To: Scanian
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posted on
11/22/2009 4:35:36 AM PST
by
EmilyGeiger
(The problem with socialism, is eventually you run out of other people's money. Margaret Thatcher)
To: Scanian
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posted on
11/22/2009 4:48:00 AM PST
by
Bon mots
To: Scanian
Since Lincoln and Landrieu have been bought off it is now sure to pass.No, it isn't. Lincoln will vote against it as will Lieberman. Landrieu will be under severe pressure, too. This is not over.
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posted on
11/22/2009 4:51:16 AM PST
by
BfloGuy
(It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
To: nclaurel
What is wrong with all the other dummies? Why don’t they ALL hold out for $300 million??
To: benewton
Yeah, and you also won’t get the “chicks for free”. LOL
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posted on
11/22/2009 5:00:06 AM PST
by
dforest
(Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
To: BfloGuy
“No, it isn't. Lincoln will vote against it as will Lieberman. Landrieu will be under severe pressure, too. This is not over.”
And you believe Lincoln and Lieberman and Landrieu?
The two whores will roll on their backs again when the vote to end debate comes up as long as the CASH INJECTION bribe is BIG ENOUGH.
As for Lieberman, I wouldn't (and no one else should) trust him as far as I could throw him.
This is a done deal. Expect it to be on zero's desk before Christmas.
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posted on
11/22/2009 5:04:51 AM PST
by
CapnJack
To: Sacajaweau
...and there are, of course, no estimates of the cost of fraud and corruption, which will happen.
Congress will be guilty of the biggest robbery in history.
This Must Be Stopped.
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posted on
11/22/2009 5:11:52 AM PST
by
Shady
(The Fairness Doctrine is ANYTHING but fair!!!!)
To: Scanian
I personally know a woman who supports this plan and saw her last night. You couldn’t even reason with her.
To: Scanian
Anti-Constitutional BS! This piece of legislative sludge is accomplished via another ‘rules’ trick by adding the bill as an amendment to another bill already on the agenda. These elitists don’t even have the decency to let it stand on it’s own. Of course, Porkulus was done in the same fashion.
All that aside, it’s still anti-Constitutional, and NO ONE appears to be challenging it on the Constitutional grounds; apparently trusting in the logic of the court system (another scary thought).
It’s time to mount another message assault on Washington. This health care deform garbage must be stopped, along with the upcoming re-emergent amnesty for illegals that is next on the socialist agenda.
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posted on
11/22/2009 5:19:54 AM PST
by
PubliusMM
(RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
To: Scanian
I am certainly glad the Republicans have stood up as a block and said that even if this abomination is passed, once they are returned to power, they will tear it down, by repealing it.
Laws are not written in stone, and the Republicans, once they are back in the majority, are free to do this as soon as they want.
So, that being said, HOW MANY Republicans have said they will do this?
Hundreds? No. Well, there are a few RINOs. So, how many Dozen Republicans have said this? None. What? Are there that many liberals in the Republican party caucus?
Well, okay, if it is just a dozen Republicans... No, not that either.
C’mon! How many have called for repeal of this hideous, nation destroying monster if it is passed???
None. Not a SINGLE Republican has called for repeal.
Why is that? Don’t they know that they can? Don’t they know that they could have repealed the last 70 years of socialism if they wanted to, when they were back in power?
Then why didn’t they, and why haven’t they? What in tarnation is the use of an opposition party that aids and abets their opponent?
Are the Republicans just the conservative wing of the Democrat party?
Rush Limbaugh hasn’t come out and said this, nor has anyone at FOX. Maybe Ann Coulter hinted at it, but that’s about it.
What’s going on here?
To: Dr. Scarpetta
Is she in a position where it won’t effect her?? Like poor or whatever??
To: Scanian
There are several Dems plus Lieberman who are record as opposing this bill if it contains a public option and funding for abortion.
Unless those provisions are contained in the bill dozens of House Dems will vote against it.
The only hope Dems have, IMO, is to pass something watered down with a trigger. Then next time around, if the GOP is in charge of Congress, they get rid of the trigger.
This will be a protracted battle.
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posted on
11/22/2009 5:40:28 AM PST
by
randita
(Chains you can bereave in.)
To: Scanian
The ‘bama and the Democrats would rather have absolute power over a third world country than preside over a country of a free and prosperous people. They will accomplish both goals at the same time; the acquisition of total power while destroying every institution of freedom and properity, and there is no one with the foresight, resolve and courage to oppose them. We may have already committed suicide by compromise.
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posted on
11/22/2009 5:43:03 AM PST
by
Spok
To: indylindy
Three own me, one dog, one cat, and one wife.
All are high maintenance, none are free, and is there any other way?
And why would I want it to be different?
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posted on
11/22/2009 5:47:37 AM PST
by
benewton
To: Scanian
How much went into Louisiana for vote enhancing projects and how much more went as a gold deposit into a bank somewhere like Cayman Island?
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posted on
11/22/2009 6:06:30 AM PST
by
arthurus
("If you don't believe in shoThe Problem is oting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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