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To: Clemenza

Yeah, but back then, the founding fathers ONLY had to worry about the enemy without. The enemy within has now taken over and is driving us over the cliff at warp speed, all in the name of grabbing communist-style power. The founding fathers would have been stunned if they had had to deal with what we’re facing. There probably are no words for what they would have thought about what’s going on now.


148 posted on 11/21/2009 6:37:54 PM PST by XenaLee
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To: XenaLee
We had the enemy within, they were called LOYALISTS, most of whom went to Canada, many having their houses burned down in places like Monmouth County, New Jersey. 1/3 of the population were sheeple who either kept quiet or supported whoever seemed to be winning.

It isn't over yet.

150 posted on 11/21/2009 6:43:06 PM PST by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: XenaLee

“Yeah, but back then, the founding fathers ONLY had to worry about the enemy without. The enemy within has now taken over and is driving us over the cliff at warp speed, all in the name of grabbing communist-style power. The founding fathers would have been stunned if they had had to deal with what we’re facing. There probably are no words for what they would have thought about what’s going on now.”

There are tons of great books on the Philadelphia Convention of 1787 and lots on Madison’s notes taken during the convention. I think you would be stunned at what they faced that summer.

Among the attendees there were monarchists, most were against pure democracy and “settled”
for the electoral college compromise, slavery was guaranteed in the final draft as a compromise with the south, there were various levels of mindsets that would later be defined as socialist and on and on. There were LOTS of enemies within. Damn near every delegation at the convention wanted to punch members of other state delegations in the face and probably would have if Washington wasn’t in the room.

There were just as many differing opinions and nasty political battles then as there are now. Human nature has been amazingly static when it comes to politics since the earliest comprehensive political history books that we have such as Titus Livius’ writings regarding the early History of Rome.


184 posted on 11/21/2009 10:10:02 PM PST by jackmercer
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