WHO plays down 'swine flu vaccination deaths'

afp ^ | 11/19/09 | afp

[Flavius]

The World Health Organisation said on Thursday that checks on many of the 30 deaths recorded following mass pandemic flu vaccinations had so far ruled out a direct link to the vaccines.

[Flavius]

thats fantastic

make up a flu strain du jour and jab away

[mysterio]

There is exactly zero evidence that the people died due to getting a vaccine. But correlation is always causation to the woo woos. Unless it's correlation between having the actual flu and dying. Then it's all exaggerated figures from the Big Pharm conspiracy.

The vaccine isn't going to hurt you unless you're allergic to eggs. The flu will. Choose wisely.

[Flavius]

boo

[donmeaker]

Regular seasonal flu kills 20,000 a year. Swine flu has, in this year and last only killed 8,000 or so far.

Now compare that to 30...

Compare to Spanish flu of 1918, with fewer people in the world killed an estimated 25 million!!!. US toll was in excess of 800,000, some 8 times the number of combat deaths in WWII.

[mysterio]

Posting this article for the third time.

[Flavius]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbSpPs05YAc

[mysterio]

Regular seasonal flu actually kills 34,000 to 36,000 a year and causes 200,000 hospitalizations. What makes H1N1 different is it is killing younger people with healthy immune systems. This indicates that the virus may be causing an immune reaction known as a cytokine storm. Cytokine storms are an extreme immune overreaction that can result in significant tissue / organ damage and death.

So basically, you don't want this bug. When I see people pretending the shot is more harmful than catching the flu, I'm compelled to point out that it's total BS.

[Flavius]

I agree the flu shots are total bs

[Mr. K]

Hey- Ya gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette... So What’s the big deal?

[Flavius]

they can all knock themselves out

[TigersEye]

The flu won't hurt me at all but that's another subject.

There is absolutely no proof (in the scientific sense you meant regarding the vaccine) that the flu has killed anybody.

[TigersEye]

When I see people pretending the shot is more harmful than catching the flu, I'm compelled to point out that it's total BS.

You don't seem compelled to give any evidence to support your position. How many people have received the vaccine and how many people have contracted the flu. With that we can calculate a percentage relative to each that have died.

[bunkerhill7]

I think WHO should test Swine Flu vaccine on 30 teenage pigs first.

[TheThinker]

The Swine flu is just getting started. My daughter just got the shot today.

She's running and jumping around just like usual.

[Caesar Soze]

H1N1 is also different because it isn’t following the seasonal flu pattern. In months when there has historically been little flu activity and no flu deaths, there is pandemic flu activity and a number of deaths. If its virulence increases during the flu season just like seasonal flu, the deaths and hospitalizations incurred thus far will be like a drop in the bucket. That’s a big if, because we really don’t know what it’ll do through winter, but it’s worth taking precautions. IMHO.

[cherry]

so far, it is not killing as many people as regular flu....

or malaria...that kills 3000 people a DAY.....

I do sincerely have great sympathy for the younger people who have died....however, a death is a death, whether they be 10 yrs old or 90 yrs old....

this disease is opportunistic just like other diseases ....it has made millions sick, probably, because we actually don't know, and millions have gotten over it without much fanfare.

the story of this "pan-epidemic" will be: it was far less severe for MOST people than the experts thought it would be....and I predict that it has already peaked, and that there will be fewer deaths from it than the regular flu....

[Flavius]

No need pigs make sufficient quantities of vitamin c
Dumb humans don’t

But it’s more important to chase all flu mutations with designer drugs then play with common sense

Onward to next crisis

[Mr. K]

But good thing we have been saved from DDT - which killed the mosquitos that carried malaria

I am sure those poor 3000 people that die each day are grateful to know they were sacrificed for “the environment”

[mysterio]

There is absolutely no proof (in the scientific sense you meant regarding the vaccine) that the flu has killed anybody.

I'm not sure how you can argue that the flu hasn't killed anyone. That statement is so far outside of reality that it doesn't warrant a refutation. Perhaps you could clarify.

[mysterio]

How many people have received the vaccine and how many people have contracted the flu.

The flu shot is 70 to 90 percent effective in those under 65. That rate drops to as low as 50 percent as you get above 65. link

However, those over 65 should still get the shot if they aren't allergic to ggs, because they are an at risk group (disproportionately killed by the flu in a normal flu season.)